MaumeeRocket Wrote:Oddball Wrote:MaumeeRocket Wrote:Oddball Wrote:The Bush fortune was built on their association with the Saudis. They don't want Kerry because he won't send a plane around the country "rescuing" them should their associates perpetrate another terrorist attack against us.
I'm still baffled by the completely unfounded and unreasonable assertions of right-wingers that a war hero would be softer on defense than a deserter. That is probably the most irrational thing I have ever heard.
Its really simple look at his voting record, He could have been Napolean 30 years ago it dosent matter, its what he does now.
Look at his voting record, or at the commercials that the Chimp's boys put out about it? They are two totally different animals.
Dont worry i have it right here in front me, same animal, sorry.
Do you have the "record" put out by the RNC? The one where they count single votes multiple times to try and make their point? Or, do you have his actual voting record?
Btw, remember these?
"After completing 20 planes for which we have begun procurement, we will shut down further production of the B-2 bomber. We will cancel the small ICBM program. We will cease production of new warheads for our sea-based ballistic missiles. We will stop all new production of the Peacekeeper [MX] missile. And we will not purchase any more advanced cruise missiles. … The reductions I have approved will save us an additional $50 billion over the next five years. By 1997 we will have cut defense by 30 percent since I took office."
-George Bush
"Overall, since I've been Secretary, we will have taken the five-year defense program down by well over $300 billion. That's the peace dividend. … And now we're adding to that another $50 billion … of so-called peace dividend."
-Dick Cheney
"Congress has let me cancel a few programs. But you've squabbled and sometimes bickered and horse-traded and ended up forcing me to spend money on weapons that don't fill a vital need in these times of tight budgets and new requirements. … You've directed me to buy more M-1s, F-14s, and F-16s—all great systems … but we have enough of them."
-Dick Cheney
You know why they were for those cuts? It was the post-Cold War and it made sense to scale back. Kerry also voted against the B-1 and Reagan's goofy Star Wars initiative. Many of the other claims about Kerry's voting record are greatly distorted. He, along with 16 other senators, including 5 Republicans, voted against 2, that's TWO appropriation bills that contained money for weapons systems. The RNC is extrapolating this into a claim that each system was a single vote from Kerry. Very dishonest. Then, if a bill was brought back for another vote, they did the exact same thing again, calling them individual votes. They also claim that he cut $1.5 million from the intelligence budget. Another gross misrepresentation. What he, and a majority of congress, voted for was an amendment that rescinded funding for a spy satellite that was never launched from a program that the NRO had cancelled.
Kerry voted against the B2 because it was created for the purpose of dropping nuclear weapons on Russia. The vote came after the Cold War had ended. Makes sense, no? It did to George Bush. He ended the program.
Kerry never opposed the F-117 as claimed by the RNC.
Kerry voted for limiting anti-satellite weapons
provided the Russians also agreed to the same limits. The satellites that were potentially saved are the same ones that guide our missile systems today.
-In 1991, Kerry opposed an amendment to impose an arbitrary 2 percent cut in the military budget.
-In 1992, he opposed an amendment to cut Pentagon intelligence programs by $1 billion.
-In 1994, he voted against a motion to cut $30.5 billion from the defense budget over the next five years and to redistribute the money to programs for education and the disabled.
-Also in 1994, he opposed an amendment to postpone construction of a new aircraft carrier.
-In 1996, he opposed a motion to cut six F-18 jet fighters from the budget.
-In 1999, he voted against a motion to terminate the Trident II missile.
Amazingly, the F-18 and Trident II are among the weapons systems that the RNC claims Kerry opposed.