UBetterCallSomebody Wrote:

TigerTwice Wrote:

homefry20 Wrote:I like the research and the life testimony but you must remember that this is a message board and I personally dont feel that Lance Armstrong should be in the class with "Greatest Athletes". He has done a lot for the sport. Keep calling me names all you see fit. Im not trying to win the Nobel Peace Prize on this board. The topic was an opinion topic of which i gave mine and got railed by you on it. Im sorry I offended you O God of the Message Boards.

I'm just backing up my opinion with an ounce of fact. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. We don't agree. Big deal. But don't play the innocent victim role after you initially disrespected Lance Armstrong and his sport because you have no experience or understanding of it.

You got railed because of the way you presented your opinion, not because of your opinion. He "rides a freakin bicycle" is about the most lame and uninformed reason to discredit an athlete that I've ever heard. Heck, it's not even a reason- it's a lack of a reason. It's basically saying that he can't be considered one of the best athletes because I can't gauge how tough his sport is.

Peace.

Whats all this discussion about? Doesn't Armstong just ride a bike. Heck most everyone can ride a bike.

Most people can't win the Tour De France 7 straight times, that is unheard of. But he also did triathlons for a while. Those are pretty hard too.

I LOVE LAMP.

homefry20 Wrote:

TigerTwice Wrote:

homefry20 Wrote:What was his other sport? I see cycling and running. Maybe im different but I see a sport as a game that tests the fitness of and individual as well as intelligence. Strategy. Maybe Im wrong again but I dont see a lot of strategy in some of these others. I still stand by my previous claim that Bo Jackson is a better athlete.

To answer your first question: cycling, running and triathlons (cycling, running, and swimming). To answer your second (intelligence & strategy), I won't get any more involved in the strategy of running & cycling other than to say strategy is very important to the competition. Specifically, when to attack and/or counter-attack. Running & cycling strategy consists of trying to break your opponents' will (mental toughness). You attack (pull away) in an effort to mentally and/or physically "crack" them. Those sports are VERY mental & there is a lot of strategy involved. Your statements indicate that you don't know anything about these sports. As such, it's usually better to shut your cakehole and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt. ;-)

I suggest you re-read this entire thread. My next suggestion would be that you stick to playing pool. I never claimed Lance Armstrong was a better athlete than Bo Jackson. It's like comparing apples & oranges.

I simply took offense to your ignorant assertion that Lance Armstrong doesn't merit consideration as one of the most impressive athletes around. We could argue the semantics of the words athlete and sport until we're both blue in the face.

Merriam-Webster defines an athlete as "a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina." Lance Armstrong certainly qualifies for that definition on the basis that he is trained and skilled in an exercise requiring physical strength, agility, and stamina. Whether or not you consider cycling or triathlons as sports is up to you. I've run a half marathon and I've cycled a fair amount. I've ridden 75 miles continuously averaging 21MPH in one day, then gone to bed, woke up and returned, but it was a recreational ride not an official competition. I've never cycled competitively (until this coming Sunday when I'll participate in the MIM Triathlon Relay where I'll do the cycling leg of the competition). Having actually done these things, in addition to having played competitive baseball, basketball, football, and soccer, it is my informed and experienced opinion that cycling & triathons are as much a sport as any other sport you deem worthy of the term.

On some levels I would consider cycling & triathlons more challenging than the traditional sports (baseball, basketball, football, soccer) because they test your mental toughness more. I might place soccer in the same category because it involves more endurance than baseball, basketball, and football. Plus, in soccer, subsitutions are limited so players are forced to have the mental toughness to fight through physical exhaustion. Boxing fits into that category because it's an individual sport that requires mental toughness, physical conditioning (both aerobic and anaerobic) and strategy.

Bo Jackson was a phenomenal athlete. I would never state otherwise. He might be the most impressive ever. Lance Armstrong deserves to be on that list, as well as Deion Sanders, Michael Jordan, Jim Thorpe, etc. I don't think any single person should be crowned "Best Athlete" and I don't think there will ever be consensus. The different sports are apples & oranges and impossible to compare. It's safe to say that if you picked the top 6 or 10 sports and had the elite athletes from each sport compete in every sport, no single person would win every event.

I like the research and the life testimony but you must remember that this is a message board and I personally dont feel that Lance Armstrong should be in the class with "Greatest Athletes". He has done a lot for the sport. Keep calling me names all you see fit. Im not trying to win the Nobel Peace Prize on this board. The topic was an opinion topic of which i gave mine and got railed by you on it. Im sorry I offended you O God of the Message Boards.

homefry, just admit you got "booya'ed" by TigerTypin'Twice. You really should know at least a little bit of which you speak before you offer an opinion on it. That way, it's called intelligent discourse as opposed to fool makin'........

Julius Peppers. He is around 250 lbs, exceptionally fast and strong, he can dunk a basketball, he plays goaline TE for the Panthers, so he must be able to catch, and he dominates at his position as well.

Chi-Town Wrote:homefry, just admit you got "booya'ed" by TigerTypin'Twice. You really should know at least a little bit of which you speak before you offer an opinion on it. That way, it's called intelligent discourse as opposed to fool makin'........

If you type enough words, people just give up and cede the point to you.

Actually, I've noticed they never cede the point to me, they just give up.

TigerTwice Wrote:

Chi-Town Wrote:homefry, just admit you got "booya'ed" by TigerTypin'Twice. You really should know at least a little bit of which you speak before you offer an opinion on it. That way, it's called intelligent discourse as opposed to fool makin'........

If you type enough words, people just give up and cede the point to you.

Actually, I've noticed they never cede the point to me, they just give up.

You made homefry look silly in relatively short order, that couldn't have been very pleasant for you. If we had a word counter in addition to a post counter, you would be in the lead......

Chi-Town Wrote:

TigerTwice Wrote:

Chi-Town Wrote:homefry, just admit you got "booya'ed" by TigerTypin'Twice. You really should know at least a little bit of which you speak before you offer an opinion on it. That way, it's called intelligent discourse as opposed to fool makin'........

If you type enough words, people just give up and cede the point to you.

Actually, I've noticed they never cede the point to me, they just give up.

You made homefry look silly in relatively short order, that couldn't have been very pleasant for you. If we had a word counter in addition to a post counter, you would be in the lead......

It'd be close. boss_man (not BOSSMAN) has some pretty long posts. Even I can't finish reading some of his novellas. ;-)

I cant believe you people are calling Lance Armstrong the best athlete in the world. He rides bikes, he rides freakin bikes. And he is a steroid user.

homefry20 Wrote:I cant believe you people are calling Lance Armstrong the best athlete in the world. He rides bikes, he rides freakin bikes. And he is a steroid user.

As far as I can tell, only uofmcamaro has claimed Lance Armstrong is the most impressive athlete. I'm simply arguing that he belongs on the list and that you're lack of knowledge of professional cycling isn't a valid reason for disparaging Lance Armstrong, his sport and his accomplishments as an athlete.

I wouldn't pick a single most impressive athlete. I'd pick 5 or so that I think deserve to be mentioned in that conversation, but there are no fair criteria by which to judge all of them across the various sports.

homefry20 Wrote:I cant believe you people are calling Lance Armstrong the best athlete in the world. He rides bikes, he rides freakin bikes. And he is a steroid user.

And Jordan just puts a ball into a hoop. I think you're either flame baiting or just don't get it. Dude, you go owned in this thread, just admit it.

I know, I shouldnt have commented on the 'cycling' thing due to my lack of knowledge and i got the equivalent of "message board rape" shortly thereafter. I give you props TigerTwice, you got me good.

For the last post, I was just having fun.

homefry20 Wrote:I know, I shouldnt have commented on the 'cycling' thing due to my lack of knowledge and i got the equivalent of "message board rape" shortly thereafter. I give you props TigerTwice, you got me good.

For the last post, I was just having fun.

No harm, no foul. Don't ever take my comments personally. I wouldn't really call you an idiot unless I'd met you in person and you did something idiotic. lmfao

If doing something idiotic is all the requirement for calling me an idiot then feel free to do so since i seem do take part in a lot of dumbsh!t everday

TigerTwice Wrote:

homefry20 Wrote:I know, I shouldnt have commented on the 'cycling' thing due to my lack of knowledge and i got the equivalent of "message board rape" shortly thereafter. I give you props TigerTwice, you got me good.

For the last post, I was just having fun.

No harm, no foul. Don't ever take my comments personally. I wouldn't really call you an idiot unless I'd met you in person and you did something idiotic. lmfao

Oh so that's why you said that last time we were together. I thought you were just being normally rude.

Chi-Town Wrote:

TigerTwice Wrote:No harm, no foul. Don't ever take my comments personally. I wouldn't really call you an idiot unless I'd met you in person and you did something idiotic. lmfao

Oh so that's why you said that last time we were together. I thought you were just being normally rude.

Chi-Town and idiot are synonyms. See:

TigerTwice Wrote:

Chi-Town Wrote:

TigerTwice Wrote:No harm, no foul. Don't ever take my comments personally. I wouldn't really call you an idiot unless I'd met you in person and you did something idiotic. lmfao

Oh so that's why you said that last time we were together. I thought you were just being normally rude.

Chi-Town and idiot are synonyms. See:

Very well played..... lmfao lmfao lmfao

Chi-Town Wrote:Very well played..... lmfao lmfao lmfao

Until I met you, I always wondered what the hell that 3rd definition meant. It really bothered me as a child.

TigerTwice Wrote:

Chi-Town Wrote:Very well played..... lmfao lmfao lmfao

Until I met you, I always wondered what the hell that 3rd definition meant. It really bothered me as a child.

And it does not surprise me that you would have had to look that word up as a child. When you hear it as often as I'm sure you did, how could you not be at least curious?

I bet you also looked up buck-toothed a lot too.

homefry20 Wrote:If doing something idiotic is all the requirement for calling me an idiot then feel free to do so since i seem do take part in a lot of dumbsh!t everday

I can vouch for that.

For what it's worth, TigerTwice, homefry is not nearly as dumb as he looks, so don't judge him by the first impression.......

Chi-Town Wrote:And it does not surprise me that you would have had to look that word up as a child. When you hear it as often as I'm sure you did, how could you not be at least curious?

I bet you also looked up buck-toothed a lot too.

That would've been good if you'd thought of it last week.