connerito Wrote:Uhh, the Washington Post, thats pretty credible right up there with,ehhh, the New York Times. An estimate of deaths from the Washington Posts Stein is similar to a NY Times Blair article.


Catholicism still the last accepted prejudice. Sorry some follow their Pope in accepting the catholic law an disagree w/the disposal of the unborn.

Sorry Pookie, Fox didn't cover the story. :rolleyes: :withstupid:

<a href='http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Pres_Election_04/html/new_10_21_04.html' target='_blank'>For connerito and friends</a>

I'm sure this idiot with a pink mohawk throwing dressing on a man is the same idiot who will blame the Republicans for not getting a job. :rolleyes:

Idiots.

Oddball,
Socialism and atheism are failed concepts.

<a href='http://reuters.myway.com/article/20050402/2005-04-02T214712Z_01_L02374475_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-POPE-PROFILE-DC.html' target='_blank'>http://reuters.myway.com/article/20050402/...PROFILE-DC.html</a>



As to anti catholism one of millions of examples.


<a href='http://www.catholicleague.org/05press_releases/quarter%201/050330_scottbloch.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.catholicleague.org/05press_rele..._scottbloch.htm</a>

Rightupinthere Wrote:

LakelandRocket Wrote:

Rightupinthere Wrote:

LakelandRocket Wrote:JEB pushed the results through like ****** through a goose.


.

And that canard continues by people who don't know sh!t about the election process and - specifically - the state laws which govern that election process.

Read more, presume less.

Katherine Harris

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Again, knowing the FL election law as I do (it's a hobby of mine), how were her actions 1: illegal and 2: unethical?

She HAD to certify the election within a certain time frame BY LAW. She HAD to do that because she was duty bound to the STATE. That doesn't sound like she "pushed anything through" does it?

With ALL of the research and investigations which happened right after the 2000 election there should have been at least SOMETHING which would show that she acted 1: illegally, and 2: unethically. And if there had been proof she should have been arrested and put on trial - which didn't happen.

I edited some of what I said towards the end out. I was over stepping the boundries reasoned discourse. The snow we're having is having an adverse effect on my disposition today. I apologize.

She was in charge of elections in Florida and still
accepted the job of being Bush's State Campaign
Chairperson. Very bad to begin with.

When the voting results came in so close, she should
have recused herself from the process. Instead, she
jumped in to the whole mess with both feet and, at
minimum, gave a strong impression of fraud and
impropriety.

Unethical - yes, I think so. Illegal - we'll probably never
know.

Huskie,

Who was in charge of Gores campaign ? The Democrtaic Attorney General, Bob Butterworth, who w/no authority filed an opinion and had the liberal Fl. Supreme Court get involved after the finders of facts ruled in Bush's favor. I can say, at least, Harris had to do it. That being said neither of them should have been involved in either campaign. (Even after all the liberal media, Sun Sentinel and Miami Herald followed the Gore way of counting the votes he never won. That includes Dan Rathers attempt to silence the Panhandle.)


BTW, Sam Pittman is great OLine coach, who you should be happy to have hung on to this long.

connerito Wrote:Oddball,
Socialism and atheism are failed concepts.

<a href='http://reuters.myway.com/article/20050402/2005-04-02T214712Z_01_L02374475_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-POPE-PROFILE-DC.html' target='_blank'>http://reuters.myway.com/article/20050402/...PROFILE-DC.html</a>



As to anti catholism one of millions of examples.


<a href='http://www.catholicleague.org/05press_releases/quarter%201/050330_scottbloch.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.catholicleague.org/05press_rele..._scottbloch.htm</a>

Tin foil hat time, eh?

Oddball Wrote:

connerito Wrote:I find it ironic that some state they should throw bricks at a person then question acts of, for the most part, persons attempting to save one religous values (Schiavo) as antics. Try to telling other faiths how to act.


Anti catholicism (in that&nbsp; respect christianity) is the only acceptable prejudice allowed.


BTW. its become apparent for the socialists their only response they can think of is to attack consevatives w/physical violence (See Coulter and Kristol speeches).

I find it ironic that anyone in this country is stupid enough to try and frame this debate in that way when their fearless leader, as Governor of Texas set records for executing prisoners, including people whose lawyers literally napped through the trial and the mentally retarded, all while signing the Advance Directive Act. The point man in this discussion calls the husband of the woman in question a "killer" when he himself had the feeding tube pulled on his father. One of the handful of protestors being meddling pests outside of the hospital, a very vocal and visible leader of the rabble, was a convicted child predator. Another once tried to send a box of fetuses to a President he disagreed with.

Another irony is that Geedubya acted immediately and flew back in the middle of the night from one of his many vacations to sign an unconstitutional bill (<a href='http://www.techlawjournal.com/glossary/legal/attainder.htm' target='_blank'>Bill of Attainder</a>) into law, yet took 7 minutes to continue listening to "My Pet Goat" when we were attacked by terrorists, took 3 days before making a statement (from vacation) with regards to the tsunamis, and when presented with a document entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S." he went fishing.

However, probably most ironic are the fools who are so up in arms about a woman being allowed to die, according to her wishes and her husband's wishes, are the same idiots who support an unjustified war that has killed more than 100,000 innocent Iraqi civilians, mostly women and children. How many American parents have had to suffer the unimaginable pain of being told that their child has died because their government sent them off to war for reasons that have been exposed as completely fictitious? Yet a woman, in a vegetative state, being allowed to die, as she wanted (except without the dignity that the press, Congress and the President denied her) is reason for wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Another irony is that you cry about anti-Catholicism because anti-abortion whackos are being ridiculed, but don't comment on fundie after fundie who was quoted making derogatory comments about Catholicism on CNN yesterday afternoon.

Pies and salad dressing are such WMD's. :rolleyes:

Do you think you could post one single time without making bigoted comments?

Motown Bronco Wrote:Back to the original topic...

Here's what is so ironic about the salad dressing thrower case. The guy, an admitted socialist, hates Buchanan because he wants tighter anti-immigration laws.

I'm sorry, but what does this guy think would happen if the United States ever became socialist? Open borders for all? Last I checked, you couldn't just waltz in and out of Cuba, North Korea, and China, nor do I recall the borders of pre-1990 Eastern Europe and USSR being a porous free-for-all.

Another bit of irony is that many migrant Mexicans sneak into the U.S. because they are paid at or under minimum wage (under the table) to do menial labor. It's not good money, of course, but it's better than having no job and no money in Vincente Fox's Mexico. If the socialists had their way, the minimum wage would be doubled AND would be strictly enforced, meaning that the migrant workers would not get hired at all by American farmers and factories.

...which would essentially close the borders...

I mean, the reason the Mexicans come here is for jobs. If they can't be hired, they aren't going to come.

Then, the only people who would come across are the women who want to sh!t their babies out here so they will get an education and welfare. Not to mention terrorists (OTMs) and drug smugglers.

Socialists are ignorant.

sarasotahuskie Wrote:

Rightupinthere Wrote:

LakelandRocket Wrote:

Rightupinthere Wrote:

LakelandRocket Wrote:JEB pushed the results through like ****** through a goose.


.

And that canard continues by people who don't know sh!t about the election process and - specifically - the state laws which govern that election process.

Read more, presume less.

Katherine Harris

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Again, knowing the FL election law as I do (it's a hobby of mine), how were her actions 1: illegal and 2: unethical?

She HAD to certify the election within a certain time frame BY LAW. She HAD to do that because she was duty bound to the STATE. That doesn't sound like she "pushed anything through" does it?

With ALL of the research and investigations which happened right after the 2000 election there should have been at least SOMETHING which would show that she acted 1: illegally, and 2: unethically. And if there had been proof she should have been arrested and put on trial - which didn't happen.

I edited some of what I said towards the end out. I was over stepping the boundries reasoned discourse. The snow we're having is having an adverse effect on my disposition today. I apologize.

She was in charge of elections in Florida and still
accepted the job of being Bush's State Campaign
Chairperson. Very bad to begin with.

When the voting results came in so close, she should
have recused herself from the process. Instead, she
jumped in to the whole mess with both feet and, at
minimum, gave a strong impression of fraud and
impropriety.

Unethical - yes, I think so. Illegal - we'll probably never
know.

1. Being his campaign manager does not infer or imply that she would break the law and abuse her power to affect the result of the election.

2. But if it does, then you are obviously against the finding in the Schiavo case, as Schiavo's lawyer was a campaign donor for the judge who kept finding in favor of murdering Terri Schindler. Not to mention the fact that he was on the board of governors for the care facility Schiavo was in (and of which the doctors came from...the doctors who falsely stated that she was in a PVS). Not to mention the fact that the judge in question, the one paid off by Schiavo's lawyer, ordered the Pinellas Co authorities to conduct the autopsy, so that whatever Schiavo did to his wife would never be uncovered before she is cremated.

Yeah, I am SURE that you are consistent. I am SURE that you are just as sickened and offended by the judge in the Schiavo case as you are Harris. Yeah right.

Oddball Wrote:

connerito Wrote:Oddball,
Socialism and atheism are failed concepts.

<a href='http://reuters.myway.com/article/20050402/2005-04-02T214712Z_01_L02374475_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-POPE-PROFILE-DC.html' target='_blank'>http://reuters.myway.com/article/20050402/...PROFILE-DC.html</a>



As to anti catholism one of millions of examples.


<a href='http://www.catholicleague.org/05press_releases/quarter%201/050330_scottbloch.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.catholicleague.org/05press_rele..._scottbloch.htm</a>

Tin foil hat time, eh?

You're one to talk.

Oddball Wrote:

Rightupinthere Wrote:

Oddball Wrote:same idiots who support an unjustified war that has killed more than 100,000 innocent Iraqi civilians, mostly women and children.

100,000 civilians? Please cite.

Lancet. Link currently unavailable.

It's no longer available because it was deemed a bogus report. It's been fisked more times than Coulter.

RocketWolverine Wrote:

sarasotahuskie Wrote:

Rightupinthere Wrote:

LakelandRocket Wrote:

Rightupinthere Wrote:

LakelandRocket Wrote:JEB pushed the results through like ****** through a goose.


.

And that canard continues by people who don't know sh!t about the election process and - specifically - the state laws which govern that election process.

Read more, presume less.

Katherine Harris

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Again, knowing the FL election law as I do (it's a hobby of mine), how were her actions 1: illegal and 2: unethical?

She HAD to certify the election within a certain time frame BY LAW. She HAD to do that because she was duty bound to the STATE. That doesn't sound like she "pushed anything through" does it?

With ALL of the research and investigations which happened right after the 2000 election there should have been at least SOMETHING which would show that she acted 1: illegally, and 2: unethically. And if there had been proof she should have been arrested and put on trial - which didn't happen.

I edited some of what I said towards the end out. I was over stepping the boundries reasoned discourse. The snow we're having is having an adverse effect on my disposition today. I apologize.

She was in charge of elections in Florida and still
accepted the job of being Bush's State Campaign
Chairperson. Very bad to begin with.

When the voting results came in so close, she should
have recused herself from the process. Instead, she
jumped in to the whole mess with both feet and, at
minimum, gave a strong impression of fraud and
impropriety.

Unethical - yes, I think so. Illegal - we'll probably never
know.

1. Being his campaign manager does not infer or imply that she would break the law and abuse her power to affect the result of the election.

2. But if it does, then you are obviously against the finding in the Schiavo case, as Schiavo's lawyer was a campaign donor for the judge who kept finding in favor of murdering Terri Schindler. Not to mention the fact that he was on the board of governors for the care facility Schiavo was in (and of which the doctors came from...the doctors who falsely stated that she was in a PVS). Not to mention the fact that the judge in question, the one paid off by Schiavo's lawyer, ordered the Pinellas Co authorities to conduct the autopsy, so that whatever Schiavo did to his wife would never be uncovered before she is cremated.

Yeah, I am SURE that you are consistent. I am SURE that you are just as sickened and offended by the judge in the Schiavo case as you are Harris. Yeah right.

Can we have some evidence of this Schiavo Judge conspiracy bull$$hit?

Where do you get this stuff? Hannity? Even O'Reilly has more sense than that.

What AM radio hack are you listening to?

Lakeland
Actually its 100% truth that he's on the board of the hospice and donated to Greers campaign. Being on the board of the hospice ( <a href='http://www.bluedolphinpublishing.com/Felos.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.bluedolphinpublishing.com/Felos.htm</a> ) that provided the evidence to do in Terri and get paid entirely from a trust fund set up for Terri, as well as get the experts to get paid thru Terris trust fund of a place he's on the board with in quite intersting . Felos, known as Atty Death in Fl., was a highly skilled attorney who got paid well. If Terri could've had some lawyer to get paid as opposed to the pro bono lawyer she had would things have been differant ? I suggest yes. Its ironic that the med mal money paid to Terri and place in her trust fror her services was used to pay Felos and his hospice employed expperts to ultimately end her life. While Michael kept the 3 million that he testified to the jury that he needed as a consortium claim because Terri would be like this for a life capacity of 50 plus more years. Later, a few years later and couple offspring too, he remembered she wanted to die. This is all in the court records. You're not far from Pinellas check it out.

Why didn't Judge Greer visit her (like any judge would ) before giving a death sentence ? Why wasn't an opposing viewpoint from another (parents) doctors allowed ? Why was Greer so insistent on the death w/out resorting to every possibility ?

BTW, I chuckle when Schiavos attorney states this was gone over by many judges, Actually every judge said it was for Greer to determine there was never a de novo review done. Never, this was Greers decision, solely.

The autopsy and BS Schiavos attorney spewed that we will allow an autopsy was for commercial effect. By law, in Florida, when you cremate one an autopsy is given, regardless if you want one or not.

Rightupinthere Wrote:

Oddball Wrote:

Rightupinthere Wrote:

Oddball Wrote:same idiots who support an unjustified war that has killed more than 100,000 innocent Iraqi civilians, mostly women and children.

100,000 civilians? Please cite.

Lancet. Link currently unavailable.

It's no longer available because it was deemed a bogus report. It's been fisked more times than Coulter.

As if THAT matters. Consider who you're talking to.

connerito Wrote:Lakeland
Actually its 100% truth that he's on the board of the hospice and donated to Greers campaign. Being on the board of the hospice ( <a href='http://www.bluedolphinpublishing.com/Felos.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.bluedolphinpublishing.com/Felos.htm</a> ) that provided the evidence to do in Terri and get paid entirely from a trust fund set up for Terri, as well as get the experts to get paid thru Terris trust fund of a place he's on the board with in quite intersting . Felos, known as Atty Death in Fl., was a highly skilled attorney who got paid well. If Terri could've had some lawyer to get paid as opposed to the pro bono lawyer she had would things have been differant ? I suggest yes. Its ironic that the med mal money paid to Terri and place in her trust fror her services was used to pay Felos and his hospice employed expperts to ultimately end her life. While Michael kept the 3 million that he testified to the jury that he needed as a consortium claim because Terri would be like this for a life capacity of 50 plus more years. Later, a few years later and couple offspring too, he remembered she wanted to die. This is all in the court records. You're not far from Pinellas check it out.

Why didn't Judge Greer visit her (like any judge would ) before giving a death sentence ? Why wasn't an opposing viewpoint from another (parents) doctors allowed ? Why was Greer so insistent on the death w/out resorting to every possibility ?

BTW, I chuckle when Schiavos attorney states this was gone over by many judges, Actually every judge said it was for Greer to determine there was never a de novo review done. Never, this was Greers decision, solely.

The autopsy and BS Schiavos attorney spewed that we will allow an autopsy was for commercial effect. By law, in Florida, when you cremate one an autopsy is given, regardless if you want one or not.

:ownd:

Game, set, match - Connerito.

Alot of info here.

Quote

2. But if it does, then you are obviously against the finding in the Schiavo case, as Schiavo's lawyer was a campaign donor for the judge who kept finding in favor of murdering Terri Schindler. Not to mention the fact that he was on the board of governors for the care facility Schiavo was in (and of which the doctors came from...the doctors who falsely stated that she was in a PVS). Not to mention the fact that the judge in question, the one paid off by Schiavo's lawyer, ordered the Pinellas Co authorities to conduct the autopsy, so that whatever Schiavo did to his wife would never be uncovered before she is cremated.

So you are saying that Schiavo's attorney was paid and paid well to "off" Terri. You are saying that Schiavo's attorney used his influence at the hospice, and his money to get the death decision from from the judge. That is plausible.

Although, most medical facilities hate to lose their paying customers. FYI, a board of directors typically has more than one person, in this case more than one lying murderer. Didn't the Clintons "Off" 30 or 40 people also? :rolleyes:

Books will be written and the media will talk more openly now that it is over. It's interesting that I watch Greta almost every night, on that "Liberal Bastion" Fox, and never caught on to this.

Now you are saying that the county medical examiner will supply a bogus autopsy report? That's a stretch. I DON'T believe that one, but it makes for good AM radio talk.

Thanks again for giving new meaning to M-GO-BLUE-STATE.

RocketWolverine Wrote:

Oddball Wrote:

connerito Wrote:I find it ironic that some state they should throw bricks at a person then question acts of, for the most part, persons attempting to save one religous values (Schiavo) as antics. Try to telling other faiths how to act.


Anti catholicism (in that&nbsp; respect christianity) is the only acceptable prejudice allowed.


BTW. its become apparent for the socialists their only response they can think of is to attack consevatives w/physical violence (See Coulter and Kristol speeches).

I find it ironic that anyone in this country is stupid enough to try and frame this debate in that way when their fearless leader, as Governor of Texas set records for executing prisoners, including people whose lawyers literally napped through the trial and the mentally retarded, all while signing the Advance Directive Act. The point man in this discussion calls the husband of the woman in question a "killer" when he himself had the feeding tube pulled on his father. One of the handful of protestors being meddling pests outside of the hospital, a very vocal and visible leader of the rabble, was a convicted child predator. Another once tried to send a box of fetuses to a President he disagreed with.

Another irony is that Geedubya acted immediately and flew back in the middle of the night from one of his many vacations to sign an unconstitutional bill (<a href='http://www.techlawjournal.com/glossary/legal/attainder.htm' target='_blank'>Bill of Attainder</a>) into law, yet took 7 minutes to continue listening to "My Pet Goat" when we were attacked by terrorists, took 3 days before making a statement (from vacation) with regards to the tsunamis, and when presented with a document entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S." he went fishing.

However, probably most ironic are the fools who are so up in arms about a woman being allowed to die, according to her wishes and her husband's wishes, are the same idiots who support an unjustified war that has killed more than 100,000 innocent Iraqi civilians, mostly women and children. How many American parents have had to suffer the unimaginable pain of being told that their child has died because their government sent them off to war for reasons that have been exposed as completely fictitious? Yet a woman, in a vegetative state, being allowed to die, as she wanted (except without the dignity that the press, Congress and the President denied her) is reason for wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Another irony is that you cry about anti-Catholicism because anti-abortion whackos are being ridiculed, but don't comment on fundie after fundie who was quoted making derogatory comments about Catholicism on CNN yesterday afternoon.

Pies and salad dressing are such WMD's. :rolleyes:

Do you think you could post one single time without making bigoted comments?

Cite examples, Pookie, instead of your increasingly weak little accusations.

Rightupinthere Wrote:

Oddball Wrote:

Rightupinthere Wrote:

Oddball Wrote:same idiots who support an unjustified war that has killed more than 100,000 innocent Iraqi civilians, mostly women and children.

100,000 civilians? Please cite.

Lancet. Link currently unavailable.

It's no longer available because it was deemed a bogus report. It's been fisked more times than Coulter.

Deemed bogus by...?

RocketWolverine Wrote:

connerito Wrote:Lakeland
Actually its 100% truth that he's on the board of the hospice and donated to Greers campaign. Being on the board of the hospice (&nbsp; <a href='http://www.bluedolphinpublishing.com/Felos.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.bluedolphinpublishing.com/Felos.htm</a> ) that provided the evidence to do in Terri and get paid entirely from a trust fund set up for Terri, as well as get the experts to get paid thru Terris trust fund of a place he's on the board with in quite intersting .&nbsp; Felos, known as Atty Death in Fl., was a highly skilled attorney who got paid well. If Terri could've had some lawyer to get paid as opposed to the pro bono lawyer she had would things have been differant ? I suggest yes. Its ironic that the med mal money paid to Terri and place in her trust fror her services was used to pay Felos and his hospice employed expperts to ultimately end her life. While Michael kept the 3 million that he testified to the jury that he needed as a consortium claim because Terri would be like this for a life capacity of 50 plus more years. Later, a few years later and couple offspring too, he remembered she wanted to die. This is all in the court records. You're not far from Pinellas check it out.

Why didn't Judge Greer visit her (like any judge would ) before giving a death sentence ? Why wasn't an opposing viewpoint from another (parents) doctors allowed ? Why was Greer so insistent on the death w/out resorting to every possibility ?

BTW, I chuckle when Schiavos attorney states this was gone over by many judges, Actually every judge said it was for Greer to determine there was never a de novo review done. Never, this was Greers decision, solely.

The autopsy and BS Schiavos attorney spewed that we will allow an autopsy was for commercial effect. By law, in Florida, when you cremate one an autopsy is given, regardless if you want one or not.

:ownd:

Game, set, match - Connerito.

Neither one of you have much understanding of how the judicial process works, do you? :rolleyes: