TBA Rice doesn't look like they belong in the AAC. I get the losses during the rebuild but this is just sad.

(Yesterday 01:23 AM)antoniovaldez7777 Wrote:  TBA Rice doesn't look like they belong in the AAC. I get the losses during the rebuild but this is just sad.

Yes, but with 2 equally horrid teams (Tulane, Temple) coming up, they've got a realistic shot of winning at least one conference game this season.

(Yesterday 01:27 AM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  

(Yesterday 01:23 AM)antoniovaldez7777 Wrote:  TBA Rice doesn't look like they belong in the AAC. I get the losses during the rebuild but this is just sad.

Yes, but with 2 equally horrid teams (Tulane, Temple) coming up, they've got a realistic shot of winning at least one conference game this season.

Yet, the Tulane AD calls out first-year coach and calls it unacceptable:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...point-loss

RICE?????

North Texas lost their coach, their star quarterback, an outstanding running back and receiver to Oklahoma State. They returned ZERO starters from last year's team, yet they are in first place in the conference.

Rice has a 5-year plan, apparently.

(Yesterday 12:41 AM)Buho00 Wrote:  Ochoa looked fine, we should stick with him at QB at this point, as Jacurri was still able to contribute. Yet only 17 points against a weak defense. Need a lot more playmakers to win games.

Maybe need to breakout multtiple freshmen skill players into special teams & in offense

I thought the defense looked okay earlier in the season but unfortunately they kind of look like they’ve given up now. I don’t think the injuries are crazy on that side of the ball.?

(Yesterday 01:27 AM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  

(Yesterday 01:23 AM)antoniovaldez7777 Wrote:  TBA Rice doesn't look like they belong in the AAC. I get the losses during the rebuild but this is just sad.

Yes, but with 2 equally horrid teams (Tulane, Temple) coming up, they've got a realistic shot of winning at least one conference game this season.

Tulane is not horrid. They are 4-5 and have a chance to at least make a bowl game.

Temple and Rice will be a good matchup but will be the battle for who's not the worst in the conference.

It's going to be an interesting off season next year.

(Yesterday 10:40 AM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  North Texas lost their coach, their star quarterback, an outstanding running back and receiver to Oklahoma State. They returned ZERO starters from last year's team, yet they are in first place in the conference.

Rice has a 5-year plan, apparently.

Read The Roost interview with the North Texas writer as to how that happened. A great road map for the route to take next time we want to hire a coach. A real eye opener.

You ARE a Roost subscriber, right?

(Yesterday 11:10 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I thought the defense looked okay earlier in the season but unfortunately they kind of look like they’ve given up now. I don’t think the injuries are crazy on that side of the ball.?

Playing devil's advocate here..,..

Maybe the problem is defense, not so much offense? Defense has given up a lot of points over the season, 52, 52, 51, 38 ...yada yada yada. Yet I hear a lot of FIRE ABELL and little or none about FIRE THE DC.

Of course they get tired, but why should they have a third quarter collapse?

I will be interested to hear some opinions pro or con defense.

(Yesterday 10:19 AM)WIowl Wrote:  

(Yesterday 01:27 AM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  

(Yesterday 01:23 AM)antoniovaldez7777 Wrote:  TBA Rice doesn't look like they belong in the AAC. I get the losses during the rebuild but this is just sad.

Yes, but with 2 equally horrid teams (Tulane, Temple) coming up, they've got a realistic shot of winning at least one conference game this season.

Yet, the Tulane AD calls out first-year coach and calls it unacceptable:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...point-loss

RICE?????

Yes, because Tulane has had success over the years, especially under Fritz. So their standards are higher.

IMO Rice doesn't have the right players for this system yet.

If it were me, I'd get a gunslinger QB next year. The Rice offense alone is too predictable.

Def is looking worse than the offense recently. Linebackers are too slow. Def needs faster guys that can put pressure on the opponents QB. Overall, the lack of depth on this team is glaring. Dark times for Rice football.

(Yesterday 03:28 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(Yesterday 11:10 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I thought the defense looked okay earlier in the season but unfortunately they kind of look like they’ve given up now. I don’t think the injuries are crazy on that side of the ball.?

Playing devil's advocate here..,..

Maybe the problem is defense, not so much offense? Defense has given up a lot of points over the season, 52, 52, 51, 38 ...yada yada yada. Yet I hear a lot of FIRE ABELL and little or none about FIRE THE DC.

Of course they get tired, but why should they have a third quarter collapse?

I will be interested to hear some opinions pro or con defense.

The buck stops with the head coach. He's in charge of the defense and special teams, as well as with the offense.

(Yesterday 04:15 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  

(Yesterday 03:28 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(Yesterday 11:10 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I thought the defense looked okay earlier in the season but unfortunately they kind of look like they’ve given up now. I don’t think the injuries are crazy on that side of the ball.?

Playing devil's advocate here..,..

Maybe the problem is defense, not so much offense? Defense has given up a lot of points over the season, 52, 52, 51, 38 ...yada yada yada. Yet I hear a lot of FIRE ABELL and little or none about FIRE THE DC.

Of course they get tired, but why should they have a third quarter collapse?

I will be interested to hear some opinions pro or con defense.

The buck stops with the head coach. He's in charge of the defense and special teams, as well as with the offense.

The defense is brutal. Special teams are abysmal. There is no doubt.

Maybe you pull out your checkbook and throw the coach some NIL money. You guys do realize Abell has the lowest NIL budget in the conference, right? By a lot. And the players he recruits be it the portal or high school all want to know how much they are getting paid. They may want to come to Rice but it's all about the money, do not kid yourselves.

Also, maybe cut the current team a little slack. This team is the most injured roster in the entire FBS. Two of the best players and team captains were lost early in the season.

(Yesterday 04:15 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  

(Yesterday 03:28 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(Yesterday 11:10 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I thought the defense looked okay earlier in the season but unfortunately they kind of look like they’ve given up now. I don’t think the injuries are crazy on that side of the ball.?

Playing devil's advocate here..,..

Maybe the problem is defense, not so much offense? Defense has given up a lot of points over the season, 52, 52, 51, 38 ...yada yada yada. Yet I hear a lot of FIRE ABELL and little or none about FIRE THE DC.

Of course they get tired, but why should they have a third quarter collapse?

I will be interested to hear some opinions pro or con defense.

The buck stops with the head coach. He's in charge of the defense and special teams, as well as with the offense.

So you would NOT be OK with firing Abell and hiring Kay as the next guy? If Abell is a rotten egg, all the eggs in his basket are rotten also?

Got it.

We were UNT's Homecoming date.

Official attendance: 23443
They count tickets sold as well.
Stadium seats 30,100.
No way this is 77% full.



Taken from the 50 on the home side.
They probably don't count the 500 or so in the band - they don't have to buy tickets (with the alumni band there as well).
They have the only black powder cannon in the FBS.

(Yesterday 08:39 PM)Grungy Wrote:  We were UNT's Homecoming date.
...
They have the only black powder cannon in the FBS.

In addition to Texas A&M and Army, Google AI tells me that these universities use black powder cannons to celebrate their teams' scores:

• University of Texas at Austin ("Smokey the Cannon"): Operated by the Texas Cowboys service organization since 1953, "Smokey III" commands the south endzone at Darrell K Royal–Texas Memorial Stadium. It fires a massive black powder blast every time the Longhorns score.

• The Citadel: This historic military college pioneered the touchdown cannon tradition in 1956. They utilize authentic 12-pounder Napoleon reproduction cannons packed with black powder to deliver a massive roar at Johnson Hagood Stadium.

• University of California, Berkeley ("California Victory Cannon"): The Cal Rally Committee fires this cannon when the Golden Bears take the field, score, or win. Due to a past conference ban on pyrotechnics directly inside the stadium, it is famously positioned and detonated from Tightwad Hill overlooking the stadium.

• University of Maryland ("The Mighty Sound of Maryland" Cannon): Originally integrated around 1960 to punctuate Terrapin scoring, this 1886 historic cannon is officially operated by trained alumni with explosive safety backgrounds alongside the university marching band.

• East Carolina University ("Pirate Cannon"): Maintained and operated by the university's Army ROTC, ECU fires a 1760 English 32-pounder iron gun replica to signal game openings, team points, and final victories.

• University of Missouri ("Mizzou-KA"): Mizzou’s Army ROTC Cannon Crew has held this tradition since 1895. They fire a blank round from a World War II-era 75mm howitzer positioned just past the north end zone.

• University of Montana ("Boom Crew"): University of Montana ROTC cadets operate a 19th-century mountain brass howitzer loaded with black powder and tight wadding to create their signature smoke cloud and deafening boom when the Grizzlies score.

(Today 12:35 AM)Almadenmike Wrote:  

(Yesterday 08:39 PM)Grungy Wrote:  We were UNT's Homecoming date.
...
They have the only black powder cannon in the FBS.

In addition to Texas A&M and Army, Google AI tells me that these universities use black powder cannons to celebrate their teams' scores:

• University of Texas at Austin ("Smokey the Cannon"): Operated by the Texas Cowboys service organization since 1953, "Smokey III" commands the south endzone at Darrell K Royal–Texas Memorial Stadium. It fires a massive black powder blast every time the Longhorns score.

• The Citadel: This historic military college pioneered the touchdown cannon tradition in 1956. They utilize authentic 12-pounder Napoleon reproduction cannons packed with black powder to deliver a massive roar at Johnson Hagood Stadium.

• University of California, Berkeley ("California Victory Cannon"): The Cal Rally Committee fires this cannon when the Golden Bears take the field, score, or win. Due to a past conference ban on pyrotechnics directly inside the stadium, it is famously positioned and detonated from Tightwad Hill overlooking the stadium.

• University of Maryland ("The Mighty Sound of Maryland" Cannon): Originally integrated around 1960 to punctuate Terrapin scoring, this 1886 historic cannon is officially operated by trained alumni with explosive safety backgrounds alongside the university marching band.

• East Carolina University ("Pirate Cannon"): Maintained and operated by the university's Army ROTC, ECU fires a 1760 English 32-pounder iron gun replica to signal game openings, team points, and final victories.

• University of Missouri ("Mizzou-KA"): Mizzou’s Army ROTC Cannon Crew has held this tradition since 1895. They fire a blank round from a World War II-era 75mm howitzer positioned just past the north end zone.

• University of Montana ("Boom Crew"): University of Montana ROTC cadets operate a 19th-century mountain brass howitzer loaded with black powder and tight wadding to create their signature smoke cloud and deafening boom when the Grizzlies score.

I was speaking to three members of their bonfire team, and two of them were also part of the cannon team, and they spoke proudly of their "ownliness".
They said that the others use packaged charges.
I'll see if I can find them to clear this up.

I would point out that North Texas scored on drives of 32, 35 and 35 yards. Really difficult to play defense when a team like North Texas has a short field.

(Yesterday 05:30 PM)Feisty Nightbird Fan Wrote:  

(Yesterday 04:15 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  

(Yesterday 03:28 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(Yesterday 11:10 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I thought the defense looked okay earlier in the season but unfortunately they kind of look like they’ve given up now. I don’t think the injuries are crazy on that side of the ball.?

Playing devil's advocate here..,..

Maybe the problem is defense, not so much offense? Defense has given up a lot of points over the season, 52, 52, 51, 38 ...yada yada yada. Yet I hear a lot of FIRE ABELL and little or none about FIRE THE DC.

Of course they get tired, but why should they have a third quarter collapse?

I will be interested to hear some opinions pro or con defense.

The buck stops with the head coach. He's in charge of the defense and special teams, as well as with the offense.

The defense is brutal. Special teams are abysmal. There is no doubt.

Maybe you pull out your checkbook and throw the coach some NIL money. You guys do realize Abell has the lowest NIL budget in the conference, right? By a lot. And the players he recruits be it the portal or high school all want to know how much they are getting paid. They may want to come to Rice but it's all about the money, do not kid yourselves.

Also, maybe cut the current team a little slack. This team is the most injured roster in the entire FBS. Two of the best players and team captains were lost early in the season.

Are there sources for the bolded statements?

(Yesterday 01:23 AM)antoniovaldez7777 Wrote:  TBA Rice doesn't look like they belong in the AAC. I get the losses during the rebuild but this is just sad.

I don't see how these losses look like we don't belong in the AAC. I get that it's bad, but there's nothing that shows Rice out of its depth in this conference.

A 2 point loss to current third place UTSA.

A 2 point loss to 6th place FAU (who beat UTSA a lot worse than us)

We were in the game with North Texas, Tulsa, and ECU for 3 quarters.

I mean in 2018 we were down 34-3 to a UTEP team on a 20 game losing streak. That was sad. It sucks to be the worst team in the conference at the moment but not belonging in the conference? I wouldn't say that based on these results. We haven't played an FBS team with a losing record this year (even if you removed their win against us)

Now if we lose badly to Tulane and Temple...