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Does HorseAsMan still support BLM after all the malfeasance and corruption among its founders have come to light? Does HorseAssMan know where the source of the large majority of BLMs' funding came from? Does the HorseAssMan not care that hardly any funds generated by BLM managed to trickle down to actual black people in need? Is HorseAssMan not aware of all the workshops attended by BLM founders in places like Cuba and other communist regimes in South America in which fundamental principles of communism were taught and money was obtained that ultimately bought the founder multiple homes in some of the poshest neighborhoods in America?

Does HorseAssMan know anything at all?
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(10-25-2026 09:43 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  
(10-25-2026 09:15 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  Fact is you tried to inflate BLM while minimizing J6. Both were violent riots. Fact. You can talk about what led up to each one or what happened after them but the events themselves were riots.

The original argument that ONLY Dems and ALL Dems are violent is just ludicrous. Only a small percentage of the population account for the majority of violent crime. One study showing 1% responsible for 63% of violent crimes. Also men are responsible for 75% of violent crime. Men lean republican and aren’t you guys always talking about how the soy bois of the left couldn’t fight their way out of a wet paper bag? It does happen on both sides. Right now the left is committing more awful acts but let’s not forget the past either.

The us vs them talk is tired. Actually be the difference.

I think you mean "conflate" - - and you are right, it was unfair of me to do so.

Unfair to the to Jan. 6 protesters, that is.

Unlike BLM, which resulted in BILLIONS of damages to American cities, and several dozen directly involved deaths - - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pe...ial_unrest - - the inexcusable Jan. 6 riot resulted only in the direct death of a single protester (by a trigger-happy, and unaccountable Capitol police officer), and convictions and actual jail time for virtually all of those involved (excepting the embedded federal provocateurs).

There is a difference. Political violence is the exception on the right. It is standard operating procedure on the left.

Truth, I can't wait to see his counter...
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(10-25-2026 09:48 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(10-25-2026 09:46 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  
(10-25-2026 09:43 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  
(10-25-2026 09:15 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  Fact is you tried to inflate BLM while minimizing J6. Both were violent riots. Fact. You can talk about what led up to each one or what happened after them but the events themselves were riots.

The original argument that ONLY Dems and ALL Dems are violent is just ludicrous. Only a small percentage of the population account for the majority of violent crime. One study showing 1% responsible for 63% of violent crimes. Also men are responsible for 75% of violent crime. Men lean republican and aren’t you guys always talking about how the soy bois of the left couldn’t fight their way out of a wet paper bag? It does happen on both sides. Right now the left is committing more awful acts but let’s not forget the past either.

The us vs them talk is tired. Actually be the difference.

I think you mean "conflate" - - and you are right, it was unfair of me to do so.

Unfair to the to Jan. 6 protesters, that is.

Unlike BLM, which resulted in BILLIONS of damages to American cities, and several dozen directly involved deaths - - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pe...ial_unrest - - the inexcusable Jan. 6 riot resulted only in the direct death of a single protester (by a trigger-happy, and unaccountable Capitol police officer), and convictions and actual jail time for virtually all of those involved (excepting the embedded federal provocateurs).

There is a difference. Political violence is the exception on the right. It is standard operating procedure on the left.

Yep. (And I was gonna say that J6 was a false flag operation anyway. You kinda already said it for me.)

I respect you, G-Coog, but do you really believe the Dems orchestrated the coordination of hundreds of Antifa members attacking the nation's capitol?

And you think they had nothing to do with it at all?? LMAO. I can no longer take you seriously. The democrat party may as well change their name to the Communist Party. Do you have your head in the sand? Have you not been paying attention to marxist creep??

Every other politician on the left is supportive of socialist candidates. Twenty years ago these candidates would be too afraid to expose their actual ideologies; now they are openly bragging about it. It's only happening on one side of the aisle, and it's not the GOP side, although they may have similar feelings about it. That said, I have heard no one on the right espousing communist sentiments or working out of marxist dogmatic playbooks.

Unbelievabe.

Open your mind and your eyes. These concerns are not tin foil-level conspiracy theories. Read one book on the topic. Just one. This one right here: NextGen Marxism:What It Is and How To Combat It.

There is a ton of books on this topic. Go to the link and look under the book description, and there are several listed; one in particular I found almost as informative as this one. It's titled Unhumans: The Secret History of Communist Revolutions (and How to Crush Them)

They are not difficult reads, and if you keep an open mind, your eyes may become a little less blurred to reality.
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(10-25-2026 07:29 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  btw

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Anyone who seriously believes that the Democrat Party is going to fix the problems that THEY CREATED under the Biden administration needs to be put into a locked facility, forced medicated, and kept away from the general public.
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The whole point of the modern progressives (code for Marxists) in Europe and here is the destruction of the west so they can rebuild it under their Marxist framework.

Many dems behind the scenes know and understand this, others are just really stupid and think their policies will fix things and not destroy them.
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(10-26-2026 06:45 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  The whole point of the modern progressives (code for Marxists) in Europe and here is the destruction of the west so they can rebuild it under their Marxist framework.

Many dems behind the scenes know and understand this, others are just really stupid and think their policies will fix things and not destroy them.

"But we'll get it right this time!"

Fools all.
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(10-26-2026 06:31 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(10-25-2026 09:48 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(10-25-2026 09:46 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  
(10-25-2026 09:43 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  
(10-25-2026 09:15 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  Fact is you tried to inflate BLM while minimizing J6. Both were violent riots. Fact. You can talk about what led up to each one or what happened after them but the events themselves were riots.

The original argument that ONLY Dems and ALL Dems are violent is just ludicrous. Only a small percentage of the population account for the majority of violent crime. One study showing 1% responsible for 63% of violent crimes. Also men are responsible for 75% of violent crime. Men lean republican and aren’t you guys always talking about how the soy bois of the left couldn’t fight their way out of a wet paper bag? It does happen on both sides. Right now the left is committing more awful acts but let’s not forget the past either.

The us vs them talk is tired. Actually be the difference.

I think you mean "conflate" - - and you are right, it was unfair of me to do so.

Unfair to the to Jan. 6 protesters, that is.

Unlike BLM, which resulted in BILLIONS of damages to American cities, and several dozen directly involved deaths - - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pe...ial_unrest - - the inexcusable Jan. 6 riot resulted only in the direct death of a single protester (by a trigger-happy, and unaccountable Capitol police officer), and convictions and actual jail time for virtually all of those involved (excepting the embedded federal provocateurs).

There is a difference. Political violence is the exception on the right. It is standard operating procedure on the left.

Yep. (And I was gonna say that J6 was a false flag operation anyway. You kinda already said it for me.)

I respect you, G-Coog, but do you really believe the Dems orchestrated the coordination of hundreds of Antifa members attacking the nation's capitol?

And you think they had nothing to do with it at all?? LMAO. I can no longer take you seriously. The democrat party may as well change their name to the Communist Party. Do you have your head in the sand? Have you not been paying attention to marxist creep??

Every other politician on the left is supportive of socialist candidates. Twenty years ago these candidates would be too afraid to expose their actual ideologies; now they are openly bragging about it. It's only happening on one side of the aisle, and it's not the GOP side, although they may have similar feelings about it. That said, I have heard no one on the right espousing communist sentiments or working out of marxist dogmatic playbooks.

Unbelievabe.

Open your mind and your eyes. These concerns are not tin foil-level conspiracy theories. Read one book on the topic. Just one. This one right here: NextGen Marxism:What It Is and How To Combat It.

There is a ton of books on this topic. Go to the link and look under the book description, and there are several listed; one in particular I found almost as informative as this one. It's titled Unhumans: The Secret History of Communist Revolutions (and How to Crush Them)

They are not difficult reads, and if you keep an open mind, your eyes may become a little less blurred to reality.

Twenty years ago we had some who were radical Marxists/or Maoists. But that's only because it was the late 1980's when they started pushing this B.S. in our public high school curriculum. That narrative is now the dominant one not only in our high schools but in the core curriculum at the universities.

It's not a damned accident and it is what our enemies, and that is what they damn well are, count on now as their baseline vote in their attempt to takeover our nation.

It's also not a damned accident that they congregate in large cities since in many states those who carry the cities carry the states that they are in with every election.

This is why ad nauseum I repeat that the first thing we must do in the defense of our nation is to take back public education for the teaching of the principals of our Republic and of the democratic system. They deliberately dumb down our schools so that weak minded children become weak minded adults who feel that they are owed something for taking up space on the planet.

The open borders are obviously a pathway to tipping the election scale and a means of delivering a sufficient force for insurgency when the time comes.

My point is until we take back public education for the teaching of our ideals we are fighting a losing battle because the enemy becomes our children and grandchildren whose minds have been polluted by propaganda and whose hearts and courage have been damaged by the constant teaching of their victimization!

As we were fond of saying in my generation, free your mind and your ass will follow! A mind that considers itself a victim and the government its only solution is anything but free!
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(10-26-2026 07:08 AM)JRsec Wrote:  Twenty years ago we had some who were radical Marxists/or Maoists. But that's only because it was the late 1980's when they started pushing this B.S. in our public high school curriculum. That narrative is now the dominant one not only in our high schools but in the core curriculum at the universities.

It's not a damned accident and it is what our enemies, and that is what they damn well are, count on now as their baseline vote in their attempt to takeover our nation.

It's also not a damned accident that they congregate in large cities since in many states those who carry the cities carry the states that they are in with every election.

This is why ad nauseum I repeat that the first thing we must do in the defense of our nation is to take back public education for the teaching of the principals of our Republic and of the democratic system. They deliberately dumb down our schools so that weak minded children become weak minded adults who feel that they are owed something for taking up space on the planet.

The open borders are obviously a pathway to tipping the election scale and a means of delivering a sufficient force for insurgency when the time comes.

My point is until we take back public education for the teaching of our ideals we are fighting a losing battle because the enemy becomes our children and grandchildren whose minds have been polluted by propaganda and whose hearts and courage have been damaged by the constant teaching of their victimization!

As we were fond of saying in my generation, free your mind and your ass will follow! A mind that considers itself a victim and the government its only solution is anything but free!


This is also why I believe the alarming rise in Autism is by design. Its not an accident, its 100% by design.

Adults living with autism are much easier to control and are much more dependent on others and the government.

They are dumbing down the populous with behavioral drugs, autism and education.
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(10-26-2026 07:08 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(10-26-2026 06:31 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(10-25-2026 09:48 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(10-25-2026 09:46 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  
(10-25-2026 09:43 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  I think you mean "conflate" - - and you are right, it was unfair of me to do so.

Unfair to the to Jan. 6 protesters, that is.

Unlike BLM, which resulted in BILLIONS of damages to American cities, and several dozen directly involved deaths - - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pe...ial_unrest - - the inexcusable Jan. 6 riot resulted only in the direct death of a single protester (by a trigger-happy, and unaccountable Capitol police officer), and convictions and actual jail time for virtually all of those involved (excepting the embedded federal provocateurs).

There is a difference. Political violence is the exception on the right. It is standard operating procedure on the left.

Yep. (And I was gonna say that J6 was a false flag operation anyway. You kinda already said it for me.)

I respect you, G-Coog, but do you really believe the Dems orchestrated the coordination of hundreds of Antifa members attacking the nation's capitol?

And you think they had nothing to do with it at all?? LMAO. I can no longer take you seriously. The democrat party may as well change their name to the Communist Party. Do you have your head in the sand? Have you not been paying attention to marxist creep??

Every other politician on the left is supportive of socialist candidates. Twenty years ago these candidates would be too afraid to expose their actual ideologies; now they are openly bragging about it. It's only happening on one side of the aisle, and it's not the GOP side, although they may have similar feelings about it. That said, I have heard no one on the right espousing communist sentiments or working out of marxist dogmatic playbooks.

Unbelievabe.

Open your mind and your eyes. These concerns are not tin foil-level conspiracy theories. Read one book on the topic. Just one. This one right here: NextGen Marxism:What It Is and How To Combat It.

There is a ton of books on this topic. Go to the link and look under the book description, and there are several listed; one in particular I found almost as informative as this one. It's titled Unhumans: The Secret History of Communist Revolutions (and How to Crush Them)

They are not difficult reads, and if you keep an open mind, your eyes may become a little less blurred to reality.

Twenty years ago we had some who were radical Marxists/or Maoists. But that's only because it was the late 1980's when they started pushing this B.S. in our public high school curriculum. That narrative is now the dominant one not only in our high schools but in the core curriculum at the universities.

It's not a damned accident and it is what our enemies, and that is what they damn well are, count on now as their baseline vote in their attempt to takeover our nation.

It's also not a damned accident that they congregate in large cities since in many states those who carry the cities carry the states that they are in with every election.

This is why ad nauseum I repeat that the first thing we must do in the defense of our nation is to take back public education for the teaching of the principals of our Republic and of the democratic system. They deliberately dumb down our schools so that weak minded children become weak minded adults who feel that they are owed something for taking up space on the planet.

The open borders are obviously a pathway to tipping the election scale and a means of delivering a sufficient force for insurgency when the time comes.

My point is until we take back public education for the teaching of our ideals we are fighting a losing battle because the enemy becomes our children and grandchildren whose minds have been polluted by propaganda and whose hearts and courage have been damaged by the constant teaching of their victimization!

As we were fond of saying in my generation, free your mind and your ass will follow! A mind that considers itself a victim and the government its only solution is anything but free!

01-ncaabbs01-ncaabbs01-ncaabbs

As always, you boil down the issue and state it with far more clarity than I do.

Preach it! 04-cheers
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(10-26-2026 07:21 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(10-26-2026 07:08 AM)JRsec Wrote:  Twenty years ago we had some who were radical Marxists/or Maoists. But that's only because it was the late 1980's when they started pushing this B.S. in our public high school curriculum. That narrative is now the dominant one not only in our high schools but in the core curriculum at the universities.

It's not a damned accident and it is what our enemies, and that is what they damn well are, count on now as their baseline vote in their attempt to takeover our nation.

It's also not a damned accident that they congregate in large cities since in many states those who carry the cities carry the states that they are in with every election.

This is why ad nauseum I repeat that the first thing we must do in the defense of our nation is to take back public education for the teaching of the principals of our Republic and of the democratic system. They deliberately dumb down our schools so that weak minded children become weak minded adults who feel that they are owed something for taking up space on the planet.

The open borders are obviously a pathway to tipping the election scale and a means of delivering a sufficient force for insurgency when the time comes.

My point is until we take back public education for the teaching of our ideals we are fighting a losing battle because the enemy becomes our children and grandchildren whose minds have been polluted by propaganda and whose hearts and courage have been damaged by the constant teaching of their victimization!

As we were fond of saying in my generation, free your mind and your ass will follow! A mind that considers itself a victim and the government its only solution is anything but free!


This is also why I believe the alarming rise in Autism is by design. Its not an accident, its 100% by design.

Adults living with autism are much easier to control and are much more dependent on others and the government.

They are dumbing down the populous with behavioral drugs, autism and education.

Excellent observation. 100 years ago no one had autism.
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A big change from the past to today is that autism diagnosis evolved. Yes at both times were low functioning kids in the past just as there are today, the difference is that a lot of kids who would be called a nerd, a spazz or a geek are put in the Austism Spectrum Disorder Level 1 category. These are high functioning individuals who have difficulty reading nonverbal cues, anxiety, challenged to form and maintain friends, etc. Up until a dozen or so years ago they might have been diagnosed with Asperger's, but the use of that diagnosis became taboo due to Herman Asperger’s relationship to the Nazi’s.
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And all the normal weight kids in school were just the same as the two fat kids in school, just misdiagnosed.
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(10-26-2026 07:46 AM)CliftonAve2 Wrote:  A big change from the past to today is that autism diagnosis evolved. Yes at both times were low functioning kids in the past just as there are today, the difference is that a lot of kids who would be called a nerd, a spazz or a geek are put in the Austism Spectrum Disorder Level 1 category. These are high functioning individuals who have difficulty reading nonverbal cues, anxiety, challenged to form and maintain friends, etc. Up until a dozen or so years ago they might have been diagnosed with Asperger's, but the use of that diagnosis became taboo due to Herman Asperger’s relationship to the Nazi’s.

This is, in my unqualified opinion, exactly right. As a young kid, I had a habit of talking to myself. It was (mostly unkindly) teased out of my system by the time that I was in the 4th grade.

In today's world, I would probably have been diagnosed as mildly autistic and coddled along. And I would today still be talking to myself aloud. That's not for the better.
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(10-26-2026 07:46 AM)CliftonAve2 Wrote:  A big change from the past to today is that autism diagnosis evolved. Yes at both times were low functioning kids in the past just as there are today, the difference is that a lot of kids who would be called a nerd, a spazz or a geek are put in the Austism Spectrum Disorder Level 1 category. These are high functioning individuals who have difficulty reading nonverbal cues, anxiety, challenged to form and maintain friends, etc. Up until a dozen or so years ago they might have been diagnosed with Asperger's, but the use of that diagnosis became taboo due to Herman Asperger’s relationship to the Nazi’s.



I don't buy that at all.

I can walk around anywhere in public and see with my own 2 eyes the DRAMATIC surge in real Autism.

Its true we have way more people who get diagnosed now who did not in the past, but we also have WAY more very obvious cases of it walking around in people under 30.

No one needs a diagnosis to spot real autism. Its really obvious in how they walk, how they talk and how they behavior around others.

You guys are mixing up much lighter cases of it which are not obvious just walking around seeing people at random. There were absolutely NOT this number of 16 to 25 year olds walking around following their moms like scared pets totally in their own world frightened by everything and everyone.

Anyone saying that has not changed the last 30 years is delusional.
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(10-26-2026 08:16 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(10-26-2026 07:46 AM)CliftonAve2 Wrote:  A big change from the past to today is that autism diagnosis evolved. Yes at both times were low functioning kids in the past just as there are today, the difference is that a lot of kids who would be called a nerd, a spazz or a geek are put in the Austism Spectrum Disorder Level 1 category. These are high functioning individuals who have difficulty reading nonverbal cues, anxiety, challenged to form and maintain friends, etc. Up until a dozen or so years ago they might have been diagnosed with Asperger's, but the use of that diagnosis became taboo due to Herman Asperger’s relationship to the Nazi’s.



I don't buy that at all.

I can walk around anywhere in public and see with my own 2 eyes the DRAMATIC surge in real Autism.

Its true we have way more people who get diagnosed now who did not in the past, but we also have WAY more very obvious cases of it walking around in people under 30.

No one needs a diagnosis to spot real autism. Its really obvious in how they walk, how they talk and how they behavior around others.

You guys are mixing up much lighter cases of it which are not obvious just walking around seeing people at random. There were absolutely NOT this number of 16 to 25 year olds walking around following their moms like scared pets totally in their own world frightened by everything and everyone.

Anyone saying that has not changed the last 30 years is delusional.

To make sure we are on the same page, let’s break this down by what I’ll call high-functioning vs low-functioning people diagnosed with Autism. Low functioning is a person who has significant cognitive, communication, or physical challenges and requires substantial, ongoing daily support.

I am a bit confused because you disagreed with my premise that a lot of the people in the high functioning category are unnecessarily swept i ti the category today. Are you saying there are more people in the low functioning category today than in the past? Are you attributing their low functioning to them being coddled? It would seem to me that would make sense for some of the high functioning category but not the low functioning group.
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(10-26-2026 08:41 AM)CliftonAve2 Wrote:  To make sure we are on the same page, let’s break this down by what I’ll call high-functioning vs low-functioning people diagnosed with Autism. Low functioning is a person who has significant cognitive, communication, or physical challenges and requires substantial, ongoing daily support.

I am a bit confused because you disagreed with my premise that a lot of the people in the high functioning category are unnecessarily swept i ti the category today. Are you saying there are more people in the low functioning category today than in the past? Are you attributing their low functioning to them being coddled? It would seem to me that would make sense for some of the high functioning category but not the low functioning group.



I'm certainly not accusing you of anything.

But I see people often trying to deny the obvious rise in serious Autism by using the explanation you did on low function vs high function and how some of these things are why the actual numbers have spiked and how its more understood and diagnosed now and all the things you were going into to. Yes, those things are true on some levels, but they do NOT account for the large numbers of low function autism we see in 2026 as compared to 1978. And no, I'm not suggesting the more moderate to severe cases are due to coddling. I'm simply pointing out that you often see them attached to their mothers or grandmothers much more that other young people their age.

I'm saying that for those with more moderate to severe cases there is an OBVIOUS spike in them regardless of what numbers are out there. I had a uncle who was deeply Autistic his entire life and was never diagnosed with Autism, most doctors 30+ years ago knew very little about it and going back 50 years almost none did. So pointing to numbers is not going to prove or disprove anything on this.

What I am saying is we can use our own 2 eyes and see a dramatic rise in cases in the under 30 crowd that was very clearly not there in the 1970's and 1980's. You can spend about 1 minute of time watching how they dress, walk and behave and you need about 30 seconds of talking to them to see it as well. They have a very specific cadence and way of talking. Its something I noticed in my uncle when I was about 6 years old and knew growing up when I saw it in others because it was so rare. Now its everywhere in the younger generation.

Its a dramatic rise from the 20th century, regardless of the actual numbers.

I have seen with my own 2 eyes the steady rise each decade from the 90's on. Now its stunning how every day common it is.

And I am not going to let them lie to us or gaslight us and pretend its not happening when it so clearly is.
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(10-26-2026 07:46 AM)CliftonAve2 Wrote:  A big change from the past to today is that autism diagnosis evolved. Yes at both times were low functioning kids in the past just as there are today, the difference is that a lot of kids who would be called a nerd, a spazz or a geek are put in the Austism Spectrum Disorder Level 1 category. These are high functioning individuals who have difficulty reading nonverbal cues, anxiety, challenged to form and maintain friends, etc. Up until a dozen or so years ago they might have been diagnosed with Asperger's, but the use of that diagnosis became taboo due to Herman Asperger’s relationship to the Nazi’s.



I don't buy that at all.

I can walk around anywhere in public and see with my own 2 eyes the DRAMATIC surge in real Autism.

Its true we have way more people who get diagnosed now who did not in the past, but we also have WAY more very obvious cases of it walking around in people under 30.

No one needs a diagnosis to spot real autism. Its really obvious in how they walk, how they talk and how they behavior around others.

You guys are mixing up much lighter cases of it which are not obvious just walking around seeing people at random. There were absolutely NOT this number of 16 to 25 year olds walking around following their moms like scared pets totally in their own world frightened by everything and everyone.

Anyone saying that has not changed the last 30 years is delusional.

I think its crazy that something that big could have been done intentionally. I suspect there is some environmental thing (plastics, cell phones, wifi, diet...) increasing the cases. Maybe the later age of parenting. But there is a big component from increased diagnosis.
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(10-26-2026 08:16 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(10-26-2026 07:46 AM)CliftonAve2 Wrote:  A big change from the past to today is that autism diagnosis evolved. Yes at both times were low functioning kids in the past just as there are today, the difference is that a lot of kids who would be called a nerd, a spazz or a geek are put in the Austism Spectrum Disorder Level 1 category. These are high functioning individuals who have difficulty reading nonverbal cues, anxiety, challenged to form and maintain friends, etc. Up until a dozen or so years ago they might have been diagnosed with Asperger's, but the use of that diagnosis became taboo due to Herman Asperger’s relationship to the Nazi’s.



I don't buy that at all.

I can walk around anywhere in public and see with my own 2 eyes the DRAMATIC surge in real Autism.

Its true we have way more people who get diagnosed now who did not in the past, but we also have WAY more very obvious cases of it walking around in people under 30.

No one needs a diagnosis to spot real autism. Its really obvious in how they walk, how they talk and how they behavior around others.

You guys are mixing up much lighter cases of it which are not obvious just walking around seeing people at random. There were absolutely NOT this number of 16 to 25 year olds walking around following their moms like scared pets totally in their own world frightened by everything and everyone.

Anyone saying that has not changed the last 30 years is delusional.

I think its crazy that something that big could have been done intentionally. I suspect there is some environmental thing (plastics, cell phones, wifi, diet...) increasing the cases. Maybe the later age of parenting. But there is a big component from increased diagnosis.

Same. I mean I wasn't the quickest to pick up on social cues, but I had gotten much better at that as an adult. My aunt on my mom's side always thought I had Asperger's or at least high-functioning autism. But I was never diagnosed by a psychologist. In fact, the last one I saw said I don't have it. Other than being really quirky sometimes, I'm actually pretty normal... for someone who was "diagnosed" as a genius when he was 5. (That's according to my mom.)
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(10-26-2026 08:16 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(10-26-2026 07:46 AM)CliftonAve2 Wrote:  A big change from the past to today is that autism diagnosis evolved. Yes at both times were low functioning kids in the past just as there are today, the difference is that a lot of kids who would be called a nerd, a spazz or a geek are put in the Austism Spectrum Disorder Level 1 category. These are high functioning individuals who have difficulty reading nonverbal cues, anxiety, challenged to form and maintain friends, etc. Up until a dozen or so years ago they might have been diagnosed with Asperger's, but the use of that diagnosis became taboo due to Herman Asperger’s relationship to the Nazi’s.



I don't buy that at all.

I can walk around anywhere in public and see with my own 2 eyes the DRAMATIC surge in real Autism.

Its true we have way more people who get diagnosed now who did not in the past, but we also have WAY more very obvious cases of it walking around in people under 30.

No one needs a diagnosis to spot real autism. Its really obvious in how they walk, how they talk and how they behavior around others.

You guys are mixing up much lighter cases of it which are not obvious just walking around seeing people at random. There were absolutely NOT this number of 16 to 25 year olds walking around following their moms like scared pets totally in their own world frightened by everything and everyone.

Anyone saying that has not changed the last 30 years is delusional.

I think its crazy that something that big could have been done intentionally. I suspect there is some environmental thing (plastics, cell phones, wifi, diet...) increasing the cases. Maybe the later age of parenting. But there is a big component from increased diagnosis.


There are a whole lot of big things that have been done intentionally throughout human history. Through science and our understanding of our brains and bodies its 1000 times easier than ever before.

Did we all forget the 2020 plandemic that fast?

We now know there are quite a number of things our government and other governments have done to affect the brain and and behavior in the military and other areas. And there are an alarming number of whistleblowers who have come out in recent decades saying they have done many others things to us through our food and air.

Things that people often say "I just can't believe that" or "I just can't believe they would do such a thing".

Some are just never going to believe those things no matter what, because who wants to believe such things? Its horrible and I completely understand the compulsion to not what to believe it under any circumstance.

And its not just this. They have lied to us about a whole host of things. Our government are liars run by very powerful elites that most of us have never heard of. They are not on the news and they are not on the ballot.
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(10-26-2026 09:30 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Same. I mean I wasn't the quickest to pick up on social cues, but I had gotten much better at that as an adult. My aunt on my mom's side always thought I had Asperger's or at least high-functioning autism. But I was never diagnosed by a psychologist. In fact, the last one I saw said I don't have it. Other than being really quirky sometimes, I'm actually pretty normal... for someone who was "diagnosed" as a genius when he was 5. (That's according to my mom.)


I'm not talking about high function cases and I'm not talking about the raw numbers because good data from previous generations is just not there.

Its a bit like trying to compare average temperature to data from the 1700's. We just don't have good trustable and sold data from that time period so its not really that useful in comparing.
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