Also, remember...NO Tax on TIPS! Sorry, Democrats!....

(10-21-2026 10:29 AM)Todor Wrote:  There’s well known fraud that has been going in for decades that we are unable to stop.

Knowing about more won’t help anything.

It’ll get overwhelmed and we’ll end up with a Bureau of Fraud that documents it all, but isn’t able to stop any of it.

Your damn side couldn't stop a border crossing. Worse yet, they didn't want to stop it. Tell us all more about how your side discovered fraud and tried to stop it. Heck, your side elected one to the Minnesota Somila Fraud Queens to Congress.

LeftwingTom is now trying to sell us a bag of goods that the biden administration was on top of eliminating fraud in Minnesota (or anywhere else). LOL, biden probably didn't even know what country Minnesota was located in.

(10-21-2026 06:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-20-2026 04:12 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(10-20-2026 01:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-20-2026 12:40 PM)Todor Wrote:  We probably have to borrow the money to set up the tip line.

We will spend more manning the phones than we stop in fraud because the fraud is a feature of our system, not a quirk of it.

Well, we have plenty of money for golf courses now, so...

The return from a couple of Minnesota daycare facilities will more than cover that, so....

You mean the fraud found as early as 2022 during the Biden administration that was already being prosecuted for which social media influencer maga fan boy Shirley claimed he found at daycare facilities that were operating properly but just weren't open when he was filming or they refused entry to a tool filming their clients kids?

You're trying hard, I'll give you that. You're failing miserably, but carrying that water for the cult, nonetheless.

Dems could make a whole lot of money like Shirley did if they wanted to. I'm sure they know a lot about where their fraud schemes are operating and who is involved.

(10-21-2026 03:31 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(10-21-2026 10:29 AM)Todor Wrote:  There’s well known fraud that has been going in for decades that we are unable to stop.

Knowing about more won’t help anything.

It’ll get overwhelmed and we’ll end up with a Bureau of Fraud that documents it all, but isn’t able to stop any of it.

Your damn side couldn't stop a border crossing. Worse yet, they didn't want to stop it. Tell us all more about how your side discovered fraud and tried to stop it. Heck, your side elected one to the Minnesota Somila Fraud Queens to Congress.

LeftwingTom is now trying to sell us a bag of goods that the biden administration was on top of eliminating fraud in Minnesota (or anywhere else). LOL, biden probably didn't even know what country Minnesota was located in.

from the former 'czar'...





to a real CZAR!!! (skip to the 1:22 to skip the fluff)





this guy lays it out perfectly...

Probably get more responses if it were a percent vs fixed dollar amount

(10-21-2026 04:46 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  Probably get more responses if it were a percent vs fixed dollar amount

wouldn't argue that point a lick ... I would also add relocation and protection services...

these aren't cub scouts or brownies (well, maybe brown ... ) they're playing with...

(10-21-2026 11:11 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  Also, remember...NO Tax on TIPS! Sorry, Democrats!....

90% of the 7.5 million filers who claimed that deduction make less than $100,000. They know prices are up everywhere and the deduction ends in ‘28. Silly Republicans.

(10-20-2026 06:16 PM)Todor Wrote:  We will still owe the money even if the electricity goes off.

That’s not how debt works.

It’s going to be extracted from our descendants one way or another.

I can virtually guarantee it’s going to be a brutal experience for them, if we’ve taught the world anything.

But, the main thing to remember is we will all likely be dead, we can still borrow freely now, so let’s just keep doing what we’re doing rather than acknowledge the truth.

After all, there are illusions to keep up, and charades don’t play themselves.

You’re absolutely right. We’ll still owe the money.
The question is who will be there to collect it…..

Most Americans believe our government is prepared for what’s coming. Our government has no plan. I know the Obama and Biden administrations didn’t address the issue. I doubt the Trump administration has done anything.

When the lights go out for a decade, we are going to be on our own. It’s not going to matter if you’re a Republican or a Democrat. It’s going to be everyone for themselves.

The first thing they should investigate is who made the billion dollar commodity futures bet 15 minutes before Trump announced he wasn’t going to bomb Iran pipeline terminals and power plants, and who in the Trump administration ordered the shut down of the regulatory investigation into it.

https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/commod...01714.html

Nick Shirley, who uncovered the Somali-run Minnesota daycare centers fraud, received the first check from Trump's tip line.

One would think the Dems would have welcomed his findings, but of course instead the Dems and their allies poured scorn and issued death threats.

For example:
1. CNN (e.g., Whitney Wild)
2. CBS News ( Jonah Kaplan and others)
3. NPR
4. NYT
5. Star Tribune, Snopes, and other local outlets
6. California Dems and the “Stop Nick Shirley Act”:
7. Other Dem lawmakers confronted or dismissed him (e.g., Sen. Scott Wiener called him a “psycho scam artist”).

In sum, when Dems say they are against fraud, their actions indicate otherwise.

(10-22-2026 10:26 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Nick Shirley, who uncovered the Somali-run Minnesota daycare centers fraud, received the first check from Trump's tip line.

One would think the Dems would have welcomed his findings, but of course instead the Dems and their allies poured scorn and issued death threats.

For example:
1. CNN (e.g., Whitney Wild)
2. CBS News ( Jonah Kaplan and others)
3. NPR
4. NYT
5. Star Tribune, Snopes, and other local outlets
6. California Dems and the “Stop Nick Shirley Act”:
7. Other Dem lawmakers confronted or dismissed him (e.g., Sen. Scott Wiener called him a “psycho scam artist”).

In sum, when Dems say they are against fraud, their actions indicate otherwise.

His "findings" were nothing.

The fraud was already found back in 2022.

The big question is: why are the Demonicrats so against finding out fraud?

The easy answer is: because they are involved in the shenanigans.

Ho hum, class is over. It's called Occams Razor, if you're still in doubt.

(10-22-2026 10:36 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  The big question is: why are the Demonicrats so against finding out fraud?

The easy answer is: because they are involved in the shenanigans.

Ho hum, class is over. It's called Occams Razor, if you're still in doubt.

You have quite a few fallacies in your "logic" there, son.

(10-22-2026 10:36 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  The big question is: why are the Demonicrats so against finding out fraud?

The easy answer is: because they are involved in the shenanigans.

Ho hum, class is over. It's called Occams Razor, if you're still in doubt.

Agree, but it may also be driven in part by their TDS affliction where everything (even fraud detection and prevention) remotely associated with Trump is fiercely resisted.

(10-22-2026 10:38 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-22-2026 10:36 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  The big question is: why are the Demonicrats so against finding out fraud?

The easy answer is: because they are involved in the shenanigans.

Ho hum, class is over. It's called Occams Razor, if you're still in doubt.

You have quite a few fallacies in your "logic" there, son.

No, he actually was spot on. Fraud has run amuck in the Marxist/Socialist/Democratic party. For most people it's really easy to see that truth.

Here is something else they should jump right on, DHS bought a jet with a marble shower and a table covered in manta ray skin.

“ In the last hours of Ms. Noem’s tenure, her agency delivered a windfall to one of her political donors by buying five airplanes from the man’s firm at a substantial markup.

The Department of Homeland Security agreed to pay the donor’s firm $108 million for a Boeing 737 airliner that had been converted into a huge private jet, complete with a stand-up bar, two bedrooms, marble showers and a table covered in manta ray skin.

The firm, Daedalus Aviation Corporation, had bought the same plane a few months earlier from a seller who had asked for less than $90 million, according to documents reviewed by The Times.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/10/22/us/po...-ios-share

Amongst all the fuss and feathers, this one comes down to a simple calculus:

Democrats say "we're looking into it", yet never act on it. Republicans, at least sometimes, take action.

If Democrats ever again want my vote - - and there is still a soft-headed liberal hiding deep inside of me - - they are first going to have to show something more tangible than empty words.