(08-07-2026 03:48 AM)otown Wrote: If the DSA eventually got power and do a soft overthrow of our system of government, Texas and Florida will leave the union and it will not go the route of how Alberta's referendum will go. Texas and Florida wouldnt take no for an answer if their population voted out.
I think, only think though, that TN would follow suit, as would most states below the Mason Dixon line.
(08-07-2026 03:48 AM)otown Wrote: If the DSA eventually got power and do a soft overthrow of our system of government, Texas and Florida will leave the union and it will not go the route of how Alberta's referendum will go. Texas and Florida wouldnt take no for an answer if their population voted out.
I think, only think though, that TN would follow suit, as would most states below the Mason Dixon line.
(08-07-2026 03:48 AM)otown Wrote: If the DSA eventually got power and do a soft overthrow of our system of government, Texas and Florida will leave the union and it will not go the route of how Alberta's referendum will go. Texas and Florida wouldnt take no for an answer if their population voted out.
I think, only think though, that TN would follow suit, as would most states below the Mason Dixon line.
the south shall rise again?
It's looking that way, although if we stick with calling it "The South," there may be a few states that we'll have to make special exemptions for that are above and outside the South.
(08-07-2026 03:48 AM)otown Wrote: If the DSA eventually got power and do a soft overthrow of our system of government, Texas and Florida will leave the union and it will not go the route of how Alberta's referendum will go. Texas and Florida wouldnt take no for an answer if their population voted out.
I think, only think though, that TN would follow suit, as would most states below the Mason Dixon line.
(08-06-2026 06:40 PM)shere khan Wrote: Slavi Alberta
Do they have a little green turd dictator we can send hundreds of billions
You're never going to get over that, are you?
None of us should; we have been robbed of untold billions, maybe even a trillion.
I wasn't talking about the money. That's not my point here.
Shere's not as concerned about the money as he is the "little green turd dictator." THAT's what bugs him the most, and I think that's funny.
That little dude just gets under his skin.
He has b!tched about that dude a thousand times and rarely mentions the money. It's the idea of that dude. I should have said "that guy" instead of "that." Get it now?
(This post was last modified: 08-08-2026 07:18 PM by TripleA.)
(08-07-2026 08:24 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote: Ah, Alberta. The Texas of Canada. Come on, y'all! Become your own country like we did after leaving Mexico.
like Alberta, but they'z still country, at least Calgary is. Stole the Flames from us, too.
I remember reading the Flames weren't working out in Atlanta, which is why they left for Calgary. I could be wrong on that, of course.
Not true. Flames once were 5th in overall attendance in the NHL. Think about that. There is and for decades has been a TON of support for and grassroots hockey all around the metro Atlanta area. There are a lot of rinks and leagues with players, kids and adults. Same for Phoenix, AZ area. The problem for the Flames was...well someone found out that the owners had been stealing from the players pension fund and they didn't want to give it back. The owner at the time still owed his expansion fee, so the league took the team, bought the owner out, forgave the rest of the expansion fee, and quickly moved the team to Calgary. The reason the Flames were the only NHL franchise to move and keep their name was it all went down so quickly that the League panicked and moved fast, so they didn't have time to change the name, and barely time to change the flaming A to a flaming C. Atlanta has and will support an NHL Hockey team with great attendance. Just need better ownership third time's a charm, hopefully.
Listen to find out what REALLY happened back then:
Quote:{One last dip into the vault before a flood of new episodes beginning next week; from 2020, our revealing conversation with a pro hockey great - and Atlanta Flames original!}
For 1970s-era NHL hockey fans who remember the eight-year adventure known as the Atlanta Flames, few are likely to forget Dan Bouchard. A tenacious, slightly eccentric and occasionally fight-prone French-Canadian goalie, “Bouch” was an immediate standout between the pipes for the NHL’s first-ever Deep South franchise (platooning with fellow Quebecois & expansion draftee Phil Myre during the club’s first five seasons) – and a survivor in a league where hard-nosed hockey was the norm and where good goalies were at a premium.
Bouchard’s big-league call-up to the Flames in 1972 came amidst a frantic period of NHL franchise expansion and relocation driven in large part by the arrival of the challenger World Hockey Association – which debuted alongside Atlanta (and the NY Islanders) that season.
And while the collective memory of the original Flames remains muddied by a woeful post-season record (reliably exiting the playoffs in the first round, despite qualifying six out of their eight seasons), as well as a then (and still?) persistent narrative of Southerners’ native distaste for ice hockey – Bouchard and Atlanta were actually more competitive and popular than many of the NHL’s other 1970s forays in places like Kansas City, Oakland, Denver, and Cleveland.
When Nelson Skalbania bought the Flames and moved them to Calgary in 1980, most in Atlanta and around the league assumed that the well-publicized financial struggles of the team and owner Tom Cousins (who also controlled the Omni arena and the NBA Hawks) were to blame.
But as Bouchard outlines in this revealing conversation, an explosive league-wide issue was festering behind the scenes – of which he was uniquely aware and determined to address – regardless of the potential consequences to his playing career.
Bouch walks us through an eye-opening story that wends its way through the defunct Quebec Nordiques (including the infamous “Good Friday Massacre” vs. the Montreal Canadiens in 1984), the original Winnipeg Jets, the scandalous downfall of a pro hockey Hall of Famer, and fighting for legendary player/coach Bernie “Boom Boom” Geoffrion both on – and off – the ice.
(08-07-2026 08:24 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote: Ah, Alberta. The Texas of Canada. Come on, y'all! Become your own country like we did after leaving Mexico.
like Alberta, but they'z still country, at least Calgary is. Stole the Flames from us, too.
I remember reading the Flames weren't working out in Atlanta, which is why they left for Calgary. I could be wrong on that, of course.
Not true. Flames once were 5th in overall attendance in the NHL. Think about that. There is and for decades has been a TON of support for and grassroots hockey all around the metro Atlanta area. There are a lot of rinks and leagues with players, kids and adults. Same for Phoenix, AZ area. The problem for the Flames was...well someone found out that the owners had been stealing from the players pension fund and they didn't want to give it back. The owner at the time still owed his expansion fee, so the league took the team, bought the owner out, forgave the rest of the expansion fee, and quickly moved the team to Calgary. The reason the Flames were the only NHL franchise to move and keep their name was it all went down so quickly that the League panicked and moved fast, so they didn't have time to change the name, and barely time to change the flaming A to a flaming C. Atlanta has and will support an NHL Hockey team with great attendance. Just need better ownership third time's a charm, hopefully.
Listen to find out what REALLY happened back then:
Quote:{One last dip into the vault before a flood of new episodes beginning next week; from 2020, our revealing conversation with a pro hockey great - and Atlanta Flames original!}
For 1970s-era NHL hockey fans who remember the eight-year adventure known as the Atlanta Flames, few are likely to forget Dan Bouchard. A tenacious, slightly eccentric and occasionally fight-prone French-Canadian goalie, “Bouch” was an immediate standout between the pipes for the NHL’s first-ever Deep South franchise (platooning with fellow Quebecois & expansion draftee Phil Myre during the club’s first five seasons) – and a survivor in a league where hard-nosed hockey was the norm and where good goalies were at a premium.
Bouchard’s big-league call-up to the Flames in 1972 came amidst a frantic period of NHL franchise expansion and relocation driven in large part by the arrival of the challenger World Hockey Association – which debuted alongside Atlanta (and the NY Islanders) that season.
And while the collective memory of the original Flames remains muddied by a woeful post-season record (reliably exiting the playoffs in the first round, despite qualifying six out of their eight seasons), as well as a then (and still?) persistent narrative of Southerners’ native distaste for ice hockey – Bouchard and Atlanta were actually more competitive and popular than many of the NHL’s other 1970s forays in places like Kansas City, Oakland, Denver, and Cleveland.
When Nelson Skalbania bought the Flames and moved them to Calgary in 1980, most in Atlanta and around the league assumed that the well-publicized financial struggles of the team and owner Tom Cousins (who also controlled the Omni arena and the NBA Hawks) were to blame.
But as Bouchard outlines in this revealing conversation, an explosive league-wide issue was festering behind the scenes – of which he was uniquely aware and determined to address – regardless of the potential consequences to his playing career.
Bouch walks us through an eye-opening story that wends its way through the defunct Quebec Nordiques (including the infamous “Good Friday Massacre” vs. the Montreal Canadiens in 1984), the original Winnipeg Jets, the scandalous downfall of a pro hockey Hall of Famer, and fighting for legendary player/coach Bernie “Boom Boom” Geoffrion both on – and off – the ice.
That's a great read. I'll have to watch the video another time. My apologies, sir.
(08-06-2026 06:40 PM)shere khan Wrote: Slavi Alberta
Do they have a little green turd dictator we can send hundreds of billions
You're never going to get over that, are you?
None of us should; we have been robbed of untold billions, maybe even a trillion.
I wasn't talking about the money. That's not my point here.
Shere's not as concerned about the money as he is the "little green turd dictator." THAT's what bugs him the most, and I think that's funny.
That little dude just gets under his skin.
He has b!tched about that dude a thousand times and rarely mentions the money. It's the idea of that dude. I should have said "that guy" instead of "that." Get it now?
