AFter watching all of this, including the BBC video of Pretti earlier.
Two wrongs don't make anything right.
1) Pretti was an agitator plain and simple. (As proven by the second BBC video).
2) Officer managed to get the gun away from Pretti (seems pretty clear), but it also seems that Pretti _WAS_ going for the gun a number of times while ICE officers had him held up.
3) Officer that got the gun away should have given an "all clear"
4) instead someone gave a "GUN" shout (Which was heard in the first video), which triggered a standard police response of weapons drawn.
So plain and simple, Pretti was not an "observer" IMO, should not have been there, but was. Unfortunately the wrong command made it in earshot of the LEO's involved.
(01-29-2026 12:39 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote: AFter watching all of this, including the BBC video of Pretti earlier.
Two wrongs don't make anything right.
1) Pretti was an agitator plain and simple. (As proven by the second BBC video).
2) Officer managed to get the gun away from Pretti (seems pretty clear), but it also seems that Pretti _WAS_ going for the gun a number of times while ICE officers had him held up.
3) Officer that got the gun away should have given an "all clear"
4) instead someone gave a "GUN" shout (Which was heard in the first video), which triggered a standard police response of weapons drawn.
So plain and simple, Pretti was not an "observer" IMO, should not have been there, but was. Unfortunately the wrong command made it in earshot of the LEO's involved.
He should have been in prison for breaking state and federal laws on January 13th. He should have had his CCW revoked by a judge at that time.
Quote:NEW: Attorney and self-defense expert Andrew Branca says the shooting of Alex Pretti was justified, lays out reasons why.
- "The moment he makes contact with that officer, he's just committed a federal felony good for eight years in a federal penitentiary."
- "That's why they were seeking to make his arrest because they saw him commit a forcible felony against a fellow officer."
- "Then he's noncompliant with arrest. He's fighting them. Then they discover he has a gun..."
- "They take that gun. There are cries of 'gun, gun, gun.' The officers called to each other. He's still noncompliant. They hear a gunshot go off. And Alex Pretty's right hand comes from his waistline with a black object in his hand."
- "That combination of facts is going to get you shot 999 times out of a thousand by law enforcement, and justifiably so."
"They're making all these perceptions, all these decisions in a violent, chaotic melee caused by Alex Pretti."
"They have to make all these decisions in a split second because that's how quickly someone can use a weapon against you, and those decisions."
"They don't have to be correct. The law of self-defense does not require us to make perfect decisions..."
(01-29-2026 12:39 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote: AFter watching all of this, including the BBC video of Pretti earlier.
Two wrongs don't make anything right.
1) Pretti was an agitator plain and simple. (As proven by the second BBC video).
2) Officer managed to get the gun away from Pretti (seems pretty clear), but it also seems that Pretti _WAS_ going for the gun a number of times while ICE officers had him held up.
3) Officer that got the gun away should have given an "all clear"
4) instead someone gave a "GUN" shout (Which was heard in the first video), which triggered a standard police response of weapons drawn.
So plain and simple, Pretti was not an "observer" IMO, should not have been there, but was. Unfortunately the wrong command made it in earshot of the LEO's involved.
He should have been in prison for breaking state and federal laws on January 13th. He should have had his CCW revoked by a judge at that time.
Thats the story.
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That i wont' argue with Max... again, but that's water under the bridge in that case.
(01-29-2026 12:39 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote: AFter watching all of this, including the BBC video of Pretti earlier.
Two wrongs don't make anything right.
1) Pretti was an agitator plain and simple. (As proven by the second BBC video).
2) Officer managed to get the gun away from Pretti (seems pretty clear), but it also seems that Pretti _WAS_ going for the gun a number of times while ICE officers had him held up.
3) Officer that got the gun away should have given an "all clear"
4) instead someone gave a "GUN" shout (Which was heard in the first video), which triggered a standard police response of weapons drawn.
So plain and simple, Pretti was not an "observer" IMO, should not have been there, but was. Unfortunately the wrong command made it in earshot of the LEO's involved.
(01-29-2026 12:39 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote: AFter watching all of this, including the BBC video of Pretti earlier.
Two wrongs don't make anything right.
1) Pretti was an agitator plain and simple. (As proven by the second BBC video).
2) Officer managed to get the gun away from Pretti (seems pretty clear), but it also seems that Pretti _WAS_ going for the gun a number of times while ICE officers had him held up.
3) Officer that got the gun away should have given an "all clear"
4) instead someone gave a "GUN" shout (Which was heard in the first video), which triggered a standard police response of weapons drawn.
So plain and simple, Pretti was not an "observer" IMO, should not have been there, but was. Unfortunately the wrong command made it in earshot of the LEO's involved.
He should have been in prison for breaking state and federal laws on January 13th. He should have had his CCW revoked by a judge at that time.
Thats the story.
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That i wont' argue with Max... again, but that's water under the bridge in that case.
Dont agree..... its a small but extremely important piece of a larger reality puzzle for the ultimate reasons why this moronic leftard was unalived.
You cannot strip away the weeks and most likely months of him participating in breaking law after law after law (and once his communications are subpoenaed along with other information it will compund into the second video)
You cant strip the total picture away and put a 3 second moment in time and say..... ooh ooh ooh look there they killed an innocent man.
(01-28-2026 09:40 PM)maximus Wrote: Updated, just a bit more added to the scenario but I think the local commies can give it a college try....Aaaaaaaaaand go.
If I woke up a week ago.... listen to the police scanner, hear a location where officers are headed, get in my car, head to the location, along the way tell 15- 20 other people to show up get out of their cars with bull horns and whistles and interfere with whatever the officers are doing, I get out of my car holster my hellcat, run to the scene, get in the middle of the road and scene, wont move out of the road and away from the scene even after they are commanded to, GET IN OFFICERS FACE, SPIT ON OFFICERS, SCREAM AT THE TOP OF MY LUNGS AT OFFICERS, THREATEN OFFICERS, KICK THE OFFICERS CAR MULTIPLE TIMES, BREAKING THE TAILLIGHTS OF THE OFFICERS CAR, CONTINUE TO STAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD AND CONTINUE TO SCREAM AND THREATEN THE OFFICERS, RESIST OFFICERS APPREHENSION OF ME, FIGHT WITH OFFICERS
DIDNT GET ARRESTED FOR MULTIPLE FEDERAL FELONIES BECAUSE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT WAS BANNED FROM ARRESSTING ME, KNEW THE EVENT WAS CAPTURED ON VIDEO AND THEN!!!!!
TONIGHT.....I AGAIN listen to the police scanner, hear a location where officers are headed, get in my car, head to the location, along the way tell 15- 20 other people to show up get out of their cars with bull horns and whistles and interfere with whatever the officers are doing, I get out of my car holster my hellcat, run to the scene, get in the middle of the road and scene, start directing traffic, stopping traffic, my fellow whistle blowers are feet away from officers apprehending 2 or 3 suspects, wont move out of the road and away from the scene even after they are commanded to, lay hands on an officer as they shove my fellow whistle blowers off the road......
-Why would I even do that THE FIRST TIME AND THEN AGAIN FOR A SECOND TIME?
-Would a logical person carry a weapon into a situation like that THE FIRST TIME THEN AGAIN FOR A SECOND TIME?
- If yes, why would a logical person carry a weapon into that situation THE FIRST TIME THEN AGAIN FOR A SECOND TIME?
-What should I expect if I did these things FOR BOTH THE FIRST TIME AND FOR A SECOND TIME?
-Would a logical person think they might get in trouble, harm others, or be harmed by doing these things MULTIPLE TIMES?
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Ill drop this here too...
Maybe the Commies will answer questions from Chicago Police Chief
Go to the 56 second mark, listen to his questions, short version of mine...and answer if youre not too chickenshit....
To me this case is clearly the most questionable for the agents. If it turns out his gun discharged that makes them seem less responsible but if it turns out the gun did not discharge then they are considerably more guilty of handing it poorly. There are conflicting reports out there still and even if we get supposed confirmation one way or the other this week it would not be the first time that information was wrong. That is what is so disheartening. Can we even trust what will come out on this?
Doesn't change the fact that this guy was an absolute moron who was looking for trouble and found it. But with all the political pressure these agents have to be extremely careful. Its not fair the position the democrats both nationally and locally have put them in for several reasons, but we are where we are. And that is absolutely the fault of the dems via their idiocy and raging TDS.
How many lives have they cost thanks to this sanctuary city BS and protection of harden alien criminals and rebellion against the feds and Trump. How many innocent children have been forever lost to child sex trade? How many families have been forever destroyed from rape and murder? How many unaccounted kids are there we will never know about trying to cross the border? How many families and livesvdestroyed due to fentanyl deaths?
How much innocent blood is actually on their hands and how many republicans have played along for their own gain?
I shutter to think the actual numbers and toll.
May hell enlarge itself even more for these people who gleefully and knowingly engaged in this corruption.
One thing is for sure, there is a God in heaven who knows. The truth will come out and people will get their just due in the end.
(This post was last modified: 01-29-2026 05:26 PM by ericsrevenge76.)
forgive me for resurrecting this thread, but the following vid applies how deadly a vehicle can become in the moment ... there's so many fk ups from the po in this vid to allow it to escalate to this point, but the 23:00 mark says it all as a car thief runs over a homeowner that didn't have a weapon to defend ... watch it from the beginning if you want the full effect what happens when the po is limited ... this shite will blow your mind, but not surprise...
edit: if this is AI, they got me...
(This post was last modified: 04-30-2026 01:16 PM by stinkfist.)
