Gonna start 1 thread with general bracketology right now.
As of Fri AM:
6 UConn
14 St John's
33 Creighton
36 Georgetown
42 Villanova- 2nd team in
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91 Butler- 23rd team out

since Fri AM:
UConn beat Bryant
Georgetown beat Wagner
Butler beat South Carolina, Virginia(was 35)

Obviously next 3-4 days gigantic for UConn and Creighton in the Players Era games.

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(11-24-2025 01:45 PM)Bill Marsh Wrote:  Based only on their start to the season:

3 - St. John’s
4 - UConn
9 - Villanova
11 - Creighton

based only on the start to the season, why would Creighton be in and Georgetown be out. Hoyas have already at least 2 Q 1 or 2 wins. Creighton has 3 Q4 wins.

(11-24-2025 02:53 PM)stever20 Wrote:  based only on the start to the season, why would Creighton be in and Georgetown be out. Hoyas have already at least 2 Q 1 or 2 wins. Creighton has 3 Q4 wins.

Good point! Back to the drawing board.

update from Bracketville-
UConn 5
St John's 19
Seton Hall 32
Butler 40 4th team in, FF
Villanova 41 3rd team in, FF

Georgetown 71 3rd team out
Creighton 81 13th team out
Xavier 92 24th team out

I like these rankings a lot better than yesterdays NET.

(12-02-2025 10:25 AM)stever20 Wrote:  update from Bracketville-
UConn 5
St John's 19
Seton Hall 32
Butler 40 4th team in, FF
Villanova 41 3rd team in, FF

Georgetown 71 3rd team out
Creighton 81 13th team out
Xavier 92 24th team out

5 sounds unrealistic based on how poorly the NET currently is.

hoping the next two weeks gives the league a bump

(12-03-2025 12:58 AM)ecasadoSBU Wrote:  

(12-02-2025 10:25 AM)stever20 Wrote:  update from Bracketville-
UConn 5
St John's 19
Seton Hall 32
Butler 40 4th team in, FF
Villanova 41 3rd team in, FF

Georgetown 71 3rd team out
Creighton 81 13th team out
Xavier 92 24th team out

5 sounds unrealistic based on how poorly the NET currently is.

hoping the next two weeks gives the league a bump

what did I always say over at HLOH that drove folks absolutely crazy always over there? conferences don't get teams in- teams get teams in.

I think what's gonna be really big this year- a seperation of teams in conference is going to be really needed. Need to have 3 or more really bad teams.

December 3rd Update:

CBI 9th team out for Marquette.

(12-03-2025 03:03 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  December 3rd Update:

CBI 9th team out for Marquette.

Ha! Glad to see you've still got your sense of humor GW. We've all been there before, at least with Marquette's brand you're not likely to be down for long.

(12-03-2025 03:51 PM)Traderwill Wrote:  

(12-03-2025 03:03 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  December 3rd Update:

CBI 9th team out for Marquette.

Ha! Glad to see you've still got your sense of humor GW. We've all been there before, at least with Marquette's brand you're not likely to be down for long.

I chuckled at that post, too.

Interesting post from Lunardi on the Big East with preview.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...redictions

I feel like he almost stole what I've been saying-
The problem in counting on real upward mobility is that the Big East could be looking at a serious drop in chances to pad its teams' Quad 1 resumés.

From Bracketville today-
5 UConn
20 St John's
27 Seton Hall
38 Butler (6th team in)

72 Villanova(4th team out)

Thanks for posting the Lunardi article, stever20.

Lunardi makes some valid points. Reading his second graph was sobering.

My mindset is focused on the Big East getting three at-large (for four total). That way, if the league lands four at-large (for five total), it will be a nice "bonus" (hoping Georgetown can sneak in, maybe by winning the BE tourney).

Seeds From Busting Brackets -

3 - UConn
5 - St. John’s
8 - Seton Hall
11 - Villanova
—- - Butler (first four out)


Seeds from On3/Rivals -

2 - UConn
5 - St. John’s
11 - Seton Hall
12 - Villanova
—- - Butler (first team out)


From Bracketologists.com -

7 - UConn
23 - St. John’s
37 - Villanova
39 - Seton Hall
43 - Butler

UConn 5
St John's 21
Seton Hall 26
Butler 40(in as AQ leader, but positioned 4th team in otherwise)

Villanova 74

Bracketville update for today-
UConn 5
St John's 22
Seton Hall 26
Butler 41 3rd team in

Villanova 74 6th team out

Lunardi update for today:
UConn 5
St JOhn's 25
Seton Hall 28
Villanova 39

Butler 75 7th team out

(12-20-2025 10:03 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Lunardi update for today:
UConn 5
St JOhn's 25
Seton Hall 28
Villanova 39

Butler 75 7th team out

The Big East "top four" would all be tourney worthy if the season ended today. I doubt I would include Butler if I were doing the at-large picks.

So (and this could change) ... three BE at-large for four total (the realistic scenario). The goal is four BE at-large for five total. Doable but will be a challenge.

(12-20-2025 11:01 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(12-20-2025 10:03 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Lunardi update for today:
UConn 5
St JOhn's 25
Seton Hall 28
Villanova 39

Butler 75 7th team out

The Big East "top four" would all be tourney worthy if the season ended today. I doubt I would include Butler if I were doing the at-large picks.

So (and this could change) ... three BE at-large for four total (the realistic scenario). The goal is four BE at-large for five total. Doable but will be a challenge.

For the sake of generating some discussion, I’m going to make the argument in favor of Butler getting a bid.

First, I’ll note that there are 37 at-large bids and 11 teams in the top 45 who are currently in line for an automatic bid. 37+11=48. Butler is currently at #48 in the NET, so on the right side of the bubble. Barely.

Second, Butler (8-3) had one quad 1 win and all 3 of their losses are either quad 1 or quad 2. So, no bad losses. As I look at the 8 teams behind them on the NET, 2 in line for automatic bids. None have more than 1 quad 1 win. #54 Colorado State can make the case that they have 3 quad 2 wins (no quad 1 wins) but on the negative side, they also have a quad 4 loss! I’m not seeing anyone else with a better record than Butler. If I go even a couple of spots further, VA Tech can make the case that 4 of their wins are quad 2 (no quad 1 wins), but their schedule is padded with 6 quad 4 wins (none in quad 3) while Butler has only 4 quad 4 wins but 3 in quad 3. And VA Tech is 10 spots further down on the NET at #58.

So, that’s my case. What say you?