(10-28-2025 01:56 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

Is that Pritzkers cat?

(10-29-2025 08:28 AM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:Elliott Williams: “I had an autopen when I worked at ICE.”

Scott Jennings: “Did you allow people to use the name Eliot Williams without your knowledge of the document or what was on the page?”

Elliott Williams: “I don’t recall.”

Scott Jennings: “I’m asking you. If you were a government official and you had an autopen, which you did, would you let some staffer sign things in your name without reading?”

Elliott Williams: “Was my authority delegated to that individual? And I think they do have the authority to do so.”

Scott Jennings: “The authority to delegate pardons and executive orders? The President of the United States can say, you unelected staffer, can go sign my name on a document that I’ve never seen for a decision that I’ve never made?”

Elliott Williams: “Quite often, the United States code delegates authority.”

Scott Jennings: “Nobody can be delegated the pardon power. It is a constitutional power and I don’t really think you can delegate the executive order power either, because the executive has to make the order.”

Elliot Williams just made the case to nullify the auto-pen pardons:

Scott Jennings: “I’m asking you. If you were a government official and you had an autopen, which you did, would you let some staffer sign things in your name without reading?”

Elliott Williams: “Was my authority delegated to that individual? And I think they do have the authority to do so.”



The constitution does not allow a president's pardon powers to be delegated.

(10-28-2025 06:34 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  Before this topic gets totally derailed by the usual, I'll state this ...

If not already enacted, a law needs to be enacted to ensure the Autopen only be used for Christmas cards and the like. Any EO or other law must be signed by the president in his or her own handwriting. We may not be able to reverse the actions of the minions surrounding Biden, but we sure as hades should ensure it never happens again. Yes, I realize there's no way to ensure the president actually reads what he or she is signing but its a first step.

You know just before Trump signs something the aide tells him what's he's signing. This should happen to all documents with a list of what he's signed with the current president's own signature verifying that he knew what he was signing...like we have to do when buying a car for instance.

(10-29-2025 08:14 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  3A is right. Actual evidence of Obama's spying on Trump's campaign and transition team has been presented, and you leftists scoffed at it as "just a bunch of lies". The evidence of your disbelief is already there. Don't get mad at us for using it to make a logical assessment.

Actually nobody doubts that 'Operation Crossfire Hurricane' occurred, or its various offshoots.

The issue is whether there was enough there to investigate.

In the end, the investigation ruled out Trump collusion.

But somehow you all get agitated for even the existence of that investigation. And pull a load of horse manure yourself with the bolded.

It sure appears to me that you bolded is simply 'garbage by exaggeration.' Imagine that.

(10-29-2025 07:07 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I said if somebody provided iron clad evidence, Tanq wouldn't believe it. Neither would you.

The other thing I said was if the roles were reversed, and all those potential issues popped up, you two would be on that like white on rice.

You might want to have your English comprehension looked at.

Maybe you may want to have your problem with exaggerations looked out.

Im fine with actual evidence. Show it. Or just whine about a 'if something happened, and it hasnt, Tanq wouldnt believe it.'

If the roles were reversed, I would take the absolute lack of fing evidence as a pretty clear indicator. Imagine that.

(10-28-2025 06:31 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-28-2025 06:20 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(10-28-2025 06:11 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-28-2025 06:01 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(10-28-2025 05:00 PM)maximus Wrote:  Explain the 2020 win using statistics....

And go

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Statistics aren’t certified vote counts.

Finished.

but muh mail-it-inns to everyone and then some were...

81 million ... it's a statistical impossibility if on the up-n-up ... yeah, you're the stickler for fighting to the nth ... #poser

My suggestion is….. prove it. Or incessantly ***** about statistics.

#incessantlyclamoringaboutstatsticsbeingproofisnotreallyproof

that's what I would expect from 'the professor' of taint ... fk historical and all relevant data that demonstrates otherwise .... it's just one of those statistical anomalies that magically happens .... ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmkayyyyyyyyyyyyy, doc...

and you wonder why kneepads got slaughtered in '24 ... same is gonna happen in '28, too unless another wiskly wabbit weaves it's way into da fway...

donk-tardia is operating on fumes due to shootin' that wad ... you can go fk yourself, now...

Quite the trigger for wanting evidence as opposed to supposition. Cool cool.

(10-28-2025 02:19 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(10-28-2025 01:54 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-28-2025 01:25 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Yeah, cheating Trump out of 2020 gave him 4 years to plan his vendetta.

FFS, you STILL believe in the big lie?

Cults gonna cult.

Even when Trump is recorded on the phone, demanding an AG commits voter fraud and threatening them with jail if they don’t, the cult rushes to defend dear leaders bruised ego

1) The person recording that call should be arrested for violating Florida law.
2) That is not what he said at all. He wanted an accurate count. The Georgia count was a mess. He was looking for real votes and to throw out fraudulent votes.

You have to have TDS to read it the way you do.

(10-29-2025 09:28 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(10-29-2025 08:28 AM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:Elliott Williams: “I had an autopen when I worked at ICE.”

Scott Jennings: “Did you allow people to use the name Eliot Williams without your knowledge of the document or what was on the page?”

Elliott Williams: “I don’t recall.”

Scott Jennings: “I’m asking you. If you were a government official and you had an autopen, which you did, would you let some staffer sign things in your name without reading?”

Elliott Williams: “Was my authority delegated to that individual? And I think they do have the authority to do so.”

Scott Jennings: “The authority to delegate pardons and executive orders? The President of the United States can say, you unelected staffer, can go sign my name on a document that I’ve never seen for a decision that I’ve never made?”

Elliott Williams: “Quite often, the United States code delegates authority.”

Scott Jennings: “Nobody can be delegated the pardon power. It is a constitutional power and I don’t really think you can delegate the executive order power either, because the executive has to make the order.”

Elliot Williams just made the case to nullify the auto-pen pardons:

Scott Jennings: “I’m asking you. If you were a government official and you had an autopen, which you did, would you let some staffer sign things in your name without reading?”

Elliott Williams: “Was my authority delegated to that individual? And I think they do have the authority to do so.”



The constitution does not allow a president's pardon powers to be delegated.

Wow

(10-29-2025 12:10 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(10-29-2025 07:07 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I said if somebody provided iron clad evidence, Tanq wouldn't believe it. Neither would you.

The other thing I said was if the roles were reversed, and all those potential issues popped up, you two would be on that like white on rice.

You might want to have your English comprehension looked at.

Maybe you may want to have your dumb*** problem with exaggerations looked out.

Im fine with actual evidence. Show it. Or just whine about a 'if something happened, and it hasnt, Tanq wouldnt believe it.'

If the roles were reversed, I would take the absolute lack of fing evidence as a pretty clear indicator, champ. Imagine that.

Hey genius, kindly show where I exaggerated anything. It was simply a hypothetical statement.

IF somebody ever presented evidence showing 2020 was rigged, I don't believe for a second that you would buy it. That's my OPINION.

If you have done anything in your time here, it's to prove you have an irreversible case of TDS, and a nasty habit of denigrating anyone who disagrees with your opinion.

And if anyone here has ever persuaded you to change your opinion, I must have missed it. So no, I don't buy that you would change your mind about anything Trump, and especially the results of the 2020 election.

Which btw, I have no clue whether it was rigged or not. I don't discount the possibility, b/c it's politics, but I'm only talking about reactions to it, if it were ever proven.

P.S. I can't exaggerate my own opinion, genius. It could be true or not, but it's still my opinion, not a fact. Those you can exaggerate.

And the English lesson is free.

(10-29-2025 12:24 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-29-2025 12:10 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(10-29-2025 07:07 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I said if somebody provided iron clad evidence, Tanq wouldn't believe it. Neither would you.

The other thing I said was if the roles were reversed, and all those potential issues popped up, you two would be on that like white on rice.

You might want to have your English comprehension looked at.

Maybe you may want to have your dumb*** problem with exaggerations looked out.

Im fine with actual evidence. Show it. Or just whine about a 'if something happened, and it hasnt, Tanq wouldnt believe it.'

If the roles were reversed, I would take the absolute lack of fing evidence as a pretty clear indicator, champ. Imagine that.

Hey genius, kindly show where I exaggerated anything. It was simply a hypothetical statement.

IF somebody ever presented evidence showing 2020 was rigged, I don't believe for a second that you would buy it. That's my OPINION.

If you have done anything in your time here, it's to prove you have an irreversible case of TDS, and a nasty habit of denigrating anyone who disagrees with your opinion.

And if anyone here has ever persuaded you to change your opinion, I must have missed it. So no, I don't buy that you would change your mind about anything Trump, and especially the results of the 2020 election.

Which btw, I have no clue whether it was rigged or not. I don't discount the possibility, b/c it's politics, but I'm only talking about reactions to it, if it were ever proven.

P.S. I can't exaggerate my own opinion, genius. It could be true or not, but it's still my opinion, not a fact. Those you can exaggerate.

And the English lesson is free.

Whatever. The **** bird that has to resort to the made up **** to feel better. Cool cool.

Take your geritol, Mr whiny. Lolz.

(10-29-2025 02:11 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Whatever. The **** bird that has to resort to the made up **** to feel better. Cool cool.

Take your geritol, Mr whiny. Lolz.

Yeah, all opinions are made up, you moron. That's why they're called opinions, and not facts.