Head coach Trent Bray has been relieved of his duties at Oregon State.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...-0-7-start

A potential soft landing spot for James Franklin?

Franklin has done enough at PSU, and at Vandy before it, to get a P4 job. He's out of Oregon State's league.

(10-12-2025 03:19 PM)The Beaver Wrote:  Franklin has done enough at PSU, and at Vandy before it, to get a P4 job. He's out of Oregon State's league.

Franklin did great work at Vanderbilt before completely turning around PSU during perhaps the darkest period of any school in CFB history. He did such a good job there that expectations are back to historically high levels, and I would hope that he'll be remembered fondly by you guys. He'll land on his feet. Perhaps at Florida? Arkansas? Even, dare I say it...UCLA?

This one seemed inevitable. Surprised he lasted this long, honestly. Guess it wasn’t just about special teams, then?

(10-12-2025 03:08 PM)rtist Wrote:  Head coach Trent Bray has been relieved of his duties at Oregon State.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...-0-7-start

A potential soft landing spot for James Franklin?

He could also get a job running a Buc-ee’s if he wants to keep his beaver streak alive

(10-12-2025 03:37 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  This one seemed inevitable. Surprised he lasted this long, honestly. Guess it wasn’t just about special teams, then?

The collapse of the P12 lead to a mass exodus of players and coaches. They are in bad shape in football and maybe basketball. Baseball still seems to be doing well.

(10-12-2025 03:37 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  This one seemed inevitable. Surprised he lasted this long, honestly. Guess it wasn’t just about special teams, then?

The special teams did cost them a few victories. This was just a situation where a good guy and a good position coach was put in a situation that he should never have been put into. They rushed into the decision to make Bray the head coach with the chaos that was surrounding the program after the Pac-12 implosion.

Some donors are stepping up to pay the buyout, and they can now do a real search for a head coach and not rush into a selection. I would expect them to hire an experienced head coach.

(10-12-2025 06:06 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  

(10-12-2025 03:37 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  This one seemed inevitable. Surprised he lasted this long, honestly. Guess it wasn’t just about special teams, then?

The special teams did cost them a few victories. This was just a situation where a good guy and a good position coach was put in a situation that he should never have been put into. They rushed into the decision to make Bray the head coach with the chaos that was surrounding the program after the Pac-12 implosion.

Some donors are stepping up to pay the buyout, and they can now do a real search for a head coach and not rush into a selection. I would expect them to hire an experienced head coach.

Jonathan Smith’s move to MSU hasn’t worked out very well for anybody. Perhaps OSU can drag their feet until the end of the year and see if he’s available again…

Lafayette heads out to Corvallis this week to play the Beavers. The Leopards are 5-2 and have a darn good coach/some good individual talent. I think they can make it interesting.

(10-12-2025 06:47 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(10-12-2025 06:06 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  

(10-12-2025 03:37 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  This one seemed inevitable. Surprised he lasted this long, honestly. Guess it wasn’t just about special teams, then?

The special teams did cost them a few victories. This was just a situation where a good guy and a good position coach was put in a situation that he should never have been put into. They rushed into the decision to make Bray the head coach with the chaos that was surrounding the program after the Pac-12 implosion.

Some donors are stepping up to pay the buyout, and they can now do a real search for a head coach and not rush into a selection. I would expect them to hire an experienced head coach.

Jonathan Smith’s move to MSU hasn’t worked out very well for anybody. Perhaps OSU can drag their feet until the end of the year and see if he’s available again…

That's what he should do. He could have that Oregon St job for life.

(10-12-2025 05:32 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-12-2025 03:37 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  This one seemed inevitable. Surprised he lasted this long, honestly. Guess it wasn’t just about special teams, then?

The collapse of the P12 lead to a mass exodus of players and coaches. They are in bad shape in football and maybe basketball. Baseball still seems to be doing well.

Oregon State and Washington State both got screwed in the Pac-12 exodus. Two once-proud programs now relegated to fodder. It's a shame that the rest of the schools bolted -- the most contradictory are Stanford and Cal's decision to go ACC, where there are three religious-affiliated schools. They refused to allow BYU in the Pac 10 for years because, you know, religion.

Bray was 5-7 last year and 0-7 this year. No reason to keep that going.

The reality is Oregon St will be good to get a coordinator move up. They could hire a re-tread I guess, but expectations should be low. Like Trent Bray low.

(10-12-2025 06:55 PM)TUowl06 Wrote:  Lafayette heads out to Corvallis this week to play the Beavers. The Leopards are 5-2 and have a darn good coach/some good individual talent. I think they can make it interesting.

That would arguably be Lafayette's biggest win in school history, should they pull if off.

(10-12-2025 07:16 PM)kurtrundell Wrote:  

(10-12-2025 05:32 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-12-2025 03:37 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  This one seemed inevitable. Surprised he lasted this long, honestly. Guess it wasn’t just about special teams, then?

The collapse of the P12 lead to a mass exodus of players and coaches. They are in bad shape in football and maybe basketball. Baseball still seems to be doing well.

Oregon State and Washington State both got screwed in the Pac-12 exodus. Two once-proud programs now relegated to fodder. It's a shame that the rest of the schools bolted -- the most contradictory are Stanford and Cal's decision to go ACC, where there are three religious-affiliated schools. They refused to allow BYU in the Pac 10 for years because, you know, religion.

Notre Dame and Boston College both have good academics, BYU's are, when compared to the rest of the P4, bad. Their religiousness didn't help but wasn't disqualifying on its own. And SMU broke its religious ties a decade ago because the Methodists, despite being one of the most liberal major denominations, were not liberal enough. Or are you talking about Wake Forest, who disaffiliated 50 years ago for similar reasons?

As to the xSUs, you can say they were "once proud programs" if you want but the truth is they were bottom of the pac(k) for decades. Slots at the top are not unlimited, in order for programs like UCF and Cinci to rise, someone else was going to have to fall.

(10-12-2025 07:38 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  

(10-12-2025 06:55 PM)TUowl06 Wrote:  Lafayette heads out to Corvallis this week to play the Beavers. The Leopards are 5-2 and have a darn good coach/some good individual talent. I think they can make it interesting.

That would arguably be Lafayette's biggest win in school history, should they pull if off.

Lafayette was a regional, fringe national power in the early part of the 20th century. Jock Sutherland had tremendous success in Easton before moving across the state to Pittsburgh where he then led the Panthers to great heights.

More recently in 1988 Lafayette beat #1 Holy Cross when the Crusaders were at the peak of the 1-AA powers. Plus, any win over Lehigh has tremendous equity. Those two are headed for a potential showdown for the PL Title/auto-bid in meeting 161.

This all said, I'm pretty sure Lafayette has not beaten a 1-A/FBS program since the split in 1978. Fellow PL mates Colgate, Holy Cross, Lehigh, Fordham, and Richmond have.

(10-12-2025 07:45 PM)The Beaver Wrote:  

(10-12-2025 07:16 PM)kurtrundell Wrote:  

(10-12-2025 05:32 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-12-2025 03:37 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  This one seemed inevitable. Surprised he lasted this long, honestly. Guess it wasn’t just about special teams, then?

The collapse of the P12 lead to a mass exodus of players and coaches. They are in bad shape in football and maybe basketball. Baseball still seems to be doing well.

Oregon State and Washington State both got screwed in the Pac-12 exodus. Two once-proud programs now relegated to fodder. It's a shame that the rest of the schools bolted -- the most contradictory are Stanford and Cal's decision to go ACC, where there are three religious-affiliated schools. They refused to allow BYU in the Pac 10 for years because, you know, religion.

Notre Dame and Boston College both have good academics, BYU's are, when compared to the rest of the P4, bad. Their religiousness didn't help but wasn't disqualifying on its own. And SMU broke its religious ties a decade ago because the Methodists, despite being one of the most liberal major denominations, were not liberal enough. Or are you talking about Wake Forest, who disaffiliated 50 years ago for similar reasons?

As to the xSUs, you can say they were "once proud programs" if you want but the truth is they were bottom of the pac(k) for decades. Slots at the top are not unlimited, in order for programs like UCF and Cinci to rise, someone else was going to have to fall.

BYU Academics:

USN&WR - 110 near top of Big 12, would be above avg in SEC, ahead of several in B1G and ACC, too
SAT - 1360 #1 in big 12, would be quite respectable in any of the other P4, too

(10-12-2025 07:36 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  Bray was 5-7 last year and 0-7 this year. No reason to keep that going.

The reality is Oregon St will be good to get a coordinator move up. They could hire a re-tread I guess, but expectations should be low. Like Trent Bray low.

Nah, it isn't that bad. Trent Bray was a panic move in hopes they could keep their roster together. They lost all of the starters anyway. It didn't help that he hired people with no coordinating experience as his assistants.

They have a conference now and they probably have a good understanding of their financial situation (I'm guessing the P12 is probably aware of what their MRD will be).

Paul Chryst wanted the job last go around.

They were the PAC-12 champions last year.

(10-12-2025 03:37 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  This one seemed inevitable. Surprised he lasted this long, honestly. Guess it wasn’t just about special teams, then?

Beavers' fans on X have been crying for Bray's ouster for awhile now. Not surprised this happened.

(10-12-2025 07:16 PM)kurtrundell Wrote:  

(10-12-2025 05:32 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-12-2025 03:37 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  This one seemed inevitable. Surprised he lasted this long, honestly. Guess it wasn’t just about special teams, then?

The collapse of the P12 lead to a mass exodus of players and coaches. They are in bad shape in football and maybe basketball. Baseball still seems to be doing well.

Oregon State and Washington State both got screwed in the Pac-12 exodus. Two once-proud programs now relegated to fodder. It's a shame that the rest of the schools bolted -- the most contradictory are Stanford and Cal's decision to go ACC, where there are three religious-affiliated schools. They refused to allow BYU in the Pac 10 for years because, you know, religion.

I don't agree they got screwed. Who's fault they didn't invest enough in football? Not high market areas either.