(10-09-2025 04:15 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  Seriously, Jordon Hudson needs to step away from the sidelines, the locker room, athletic offices, press conferences, and campus business meetings.

Fine if she is accompanying BB to social events, dinners with guests, watching sporting events on campus from reserved seats or the boxes.

https://www.usmagazine.com/stylish/news/...red-pants/[/font]

If he married her, would it be better?

Why does Prime have celebs on the sideline? Why is Dabo’s wife down there?

Does having Jordon on the sideline prevent these dudes from being able to play man to man and tackle???

(10-09-2025 04:15 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  Seriously, Jordon Hudson needs to step away from the sidelines, the locker room, athletic offices, press conferences, and campus business meetings.

Fine if she is accompanying BB to social events, dinners with guests, watching sporting events on campus from reserved seats or the boxes.

https://www.usmagazine.com/stylish/news/...red-pants/[/font]

It’s really too bad that UNC doesn’t consult with CSNBBS before their coach’s girlfriend makes any move whatsoever. I mean, we could totally fix that mess!

(10-09-2025 04:18 PM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  

(10-09-2025 04:15 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  Seriously, Jordon Hudson needs to step away from the sidelines, the locker room, athletic offices, press conferences, and campus business meetings.

Fine if she is accompanying BB to social events, dinners with guests, watching sporting events on campus from reserved seats or the boxes.

https://www.usmagazine.com/stylish/news/...red-pants/[/font]

If he married her, would it be better?

Why does Prime have celebs on the sideline? Why is Dabo’s wife down there?

Does having Jordon on the sideline prevent these dudes from being able to play man to man and tackle???

This seems like low-hanging fruit. I mean, she is attractive, even on the sideline.
I guess they can keep her off the jumbotron.

(10-09-2025 04:45 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(10-09-2025 04:15 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  Seriously, Jordon Hudson needs to step away from the sidelines, the locker room, athletic offices, press conferences, and campus business meetings.

Fine if she is accompanying BB to social events, dinners with guests, watching sporting events on campus from reserved seats or the boxes.

https://www.usmagazine.com/stylish/news/...red-pants/[/font]

It’s really too bad that UNC doesn’t consult with CSNBBS before their coach’s girlfriend makes any move whatsoever. I mean, we could totally fix that mess!

I can imagine an abundance of middle aged and older women that certainly are not part of the jet set, would not be approving of that relationship. Plenty of men who are fundamentalists in values and customs would be disapproving about it as well.

I am not troubled by two consenting people of age in a May-December romance, and not hurting others from close family, if one calls it that. If the drama is a public relations matter, then it is up to the couple to recognize the cues generated from the university, the team, the media, fans, and the general public. Perhaps, BB and JH care little about what others think, or are flattered by the negative and positive attention that happens, or are clueless.about the social constructs that impact perceptions.

In JH’s case, she may crave the attention. BB may want to flaunt the fact that he has a much younger, attractive girlfriend. For better or worse, those two intentions are compatible.

You don't hire a 73 year old nfl coach for a long rebuild. We have to wait a couple of years when he's dead. This was an attempt to get attention and they're getting lots of attention for the wrong reasons.

(10-09-2025 07:18 PM)Bluegrass80 Wrote:  You don't hire a 73 year old nfl coach for a long rebuild. We have to wait a couple of years when he's dead. This was an attempt to get attention and they're getting lots of attention for the wrong reasons.

Has anyone considered that he may have taken the job, so he could be seen sporting his young trophy sweetie because he was wanting some ad revenue for Nugenix? Maybe he and his agent organized the whole thing. And now he'll get a buyout and the ad revenue!

(10-09-2025 06:48 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  

(10-09-2025 04:45 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(10-09-2025 04:15 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  Seriously, Jordon Hudson needs to step away from the sidelines, the locker room, athletic offices, press conferences, and campus business meetings.

Fine if she is accompanying BB to social events, dinners with guests, watching sporting events on campus from reserved seats or the boxes.

https://www.usmagazine.com/stylish/news/...red-pants/[/font]

It’s really too bad that UNC doesn’t consult with CSNBBS before their coach’s girlfriend makes any move whatsoever. I mean, we could totally fix that mess!

I can imagine an abundance of middle aged and older women that certainly are not part of the jet set, would not be approving of that relationship. Plenty of men who are fundamentalists in values and customs would be disapproving about it as well.

I am not troubled by two consenting people of age in a May-December romance, and not hurting others from close family, if one calls it that. If the drama is a public relations matter, then it is up to the couple to recognize the cues generated from the university, the team, the media, fans, and the general public. Perhaps, BB and JH care little about what others think, or are flattered by the negative and positive attention that happens, or are clueless.about the social constructs that impact perceptions.

In JH’s case, she may crave the attention. BB may want to flaunt the fact that he has a much younger, attractive girlfriend. For better or worse, those two intentions are compatible.

I think that relationships are very hard, and relationships with Bill Belichick are probably much harder than most b/c so much of what he does is in the public eye. He's far and away the biggest coaching celebrity of our time, a middle aged and older man's Taylor Swift if you will, and anything that he does will be heavily scrutinized. In this case, when he's doing something that most people at least mildly disapprove of, find odd, or are jealous of (depending upon the age and sex of the person doing the judging), it's going to put that much more of a spotlight on the relationship. I don't envy the gf, either, there's no way she can win. Drift too far away and he moves on from her. Stick too close and he endures harsh criticism for spending too much time with the GF. Dress like a 24 yo and she's criticized, dress like a 64 yo and she'd probably be mocked for trying too hard to fit in with her man.

Perhaps they do love to flaunt their relationship, or at least they did at first, but I suspect that today they just wish that they could keep their private lives private.

UNC authorities obviously had in mind for Mr Belichick to help the program as a 1–3 year hire.

He’s a winning NFL coach who could presumably attract pro prospects to the program in our new NIL age. The buzz around him could help the school grab in Macchievallian fashion some of the media bonus money they were content to let others win for them in court. He could presumably help the program effect a transition from M2 to P2, at which point its longer-term budget and goals would be clearer. And while he would be managing things through this interim, the university would gain time to get its own organisational act together and scout for the next head coach.

By the end of the span Mr Belichick would be as ready to see himself retire as anyone else. Thanks would be expressed all around and on things would go.

It could still work out that way. We’ll see.

(10-09-2025 07:18 PM)Bluegrass80 Wrote:  You don't hire a 73 year old nfl coach for a long rebuild. We have to wait a couple of years when he's dead. This was an attempt to get attention and they're getting lots of attention for the wrong reasons.

Yikes! There are posters on csnbbs into their 70s. One can tell by their recollections or personal revelations. OK, I won’t venture into existentialism here.

Basically though, I agree with your two points. Multiple schools, through the years have hired senior-aged, often retired ones, coaches that have some level of celebrity. Results are more often dismal than not.

To me, the hiring of Belichick was a gimmick, and so far, is not working well. Sure, Belichick has a résumé that is highly impressive. However, was his selection a “fit”? Taking into account such factors as age, health, college fb recruiting expertise, motivation, and experiences with staff hiring and supervising on the college level, are aspects best not to overlook.

Aaron Beard (AP) on this topic.

https://apnews.com/article/bill-belichic...2a1067a83f

The confident messaging about building the “33rd” NFL team with a pro-style approach at a college program has given way to school leaders and the Tar Heels’ general manager pleading for patience from fans and donors jarred by the team’s lack of competitiveness. And now the school has suspended an assistant coach for violating rules tied to improper benefits.

(10-08-2025 09:43 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 07:28 PM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  There are seven games left, and it isn’t exactly murderers’ row. I want to see what they can do.

It would be foolish and even more embarrassing IMO to push him out now. But the chancellor or somebody should come out and give a blatant vote of confidence. How can they expect a team to function while the administration is not supporting them?

Personally, I think BB will never be successful at UNC. I am firmly in the camp that thinks he never did anything without Brady and never will.

But I have to admit the rush to judgement on social media is kind of breathtaking. He's playing this season without his first crop of recruits and the big boost in NIL behind it, and we're just 5 games into the season.

It arguably is the fastest stampede of this kind ever.

Do you think it’s because of societal jealousy of his romance with Jordon Hudson?

Because we’re in unprecedented waters where a first-year coach (who has the credibility of a 6x Super Bowl Champion) without his first crop of recruits 5 games into a 2-3 tenure is the subject of a national witchhunt that will not be satisfied until he’s immediately terminated.

(10-09-2025 11:52 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 09:43 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 07:28 PM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  There are seven games left, and it isn’t exactly murderers’ row. I want to see what they can do.

It would be foolish and even more embarrassing IMO to push him out now. But the chancellor or somebody should come out and give a blatant vote of confidence. How can they expect a team to function while the administration is not supporting them?

Personally, I think BB will never be successful at UNC. I am firmly in the camp that thinks he never did anything without Brady and never will.

But I have to admit the rush to judgement on social media is kind of breathtaking. He's playing this season without his first crop of recruits and the big boost in NIL behind it, and we're just 5 games into the season.

It arguably is the fastest stampede of this kind ever.

Do you think it’s because of societal jealousy of his romance with Jordon Hudson?

Because we’re in unprecedented waters where a first-year coach (who has the credibility of a 6x Super Bowl Champion) without his first crop of recruits 5 games into a 2-3 tenure is the subject of a national witchhunt that will not be satisfied until he’s immediately terminated.

None of the above. There are factions using this as their personal political football and trying to gain favor by making it a folly for one group and a cause for another. Ramses is of two maybe three minds on this issue. You've heard of the 3 faces of Eve? Well, it has more to do with internal conflict over the direction of things at UNC and much less to do with Belichick or his babe. The side who landed him as coach is suffering the puffery and pillaring of the group that didn't want to and mixed into all of this are some academicians wanting potentially a different potential allegiance.

It's not the same but it reminds me a bit of Maryland's internal issues.

(10-10-2025 12:00 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-09-2025 11:52 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 09:43 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 07:28 PM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  There are seven games left, and it isn’t exactly murderers’ row. I want to see what they can do.

It would be foolish and even more embarrassing IMO to push him out now. But the chancellor or somebody should come out and give a blatant vote of confidence. How can they expect a team to function while the administration is not supporting them?

Personally, I think BB will never be successful at UNC. I am firmly in the camp that thinks he never did anything without Brady and never will.

But I have to admit the rush to judgement on social media is kind of breathtaking. He's playing this season without his first crop of recruits and the big boost in NIL behind it, and we're just 5 games into the season.

It arguably is the fastest stampede of this kind ever.

Do you think it’s because of societal jealousy of his romance with Jordon Hudson?

Because we’re in unprecedented waters where a first-year coach (who has the credibility of a 6x Super Bowl Champion) without his first crop of recruits 5 games into a 2-3 tenure is the subject of a national witchhunt that will not be satisfied until he’s immediately terminated.

None of the above. There are factions using this as their personal political football and trying to gain favor by making it a folly for one group and a cause for another. Ramses is of two maybe three minds on this issue. You've heard of the 3 faces of Eve? Well, it has more to do with internal conflict over the direction of things at UNC and much less to do with Belichick or his babe. The side who landed him as coach is suffering the puffery and pillaring of the group that didn't want to and mixed into all of this are some academicians wanting potentially a different potential allegiance.

It's not the same but it reminds me a bit of Maryland's internal issues.

And frankly, he's come across like someone with dementia. The torn Tshirts, the way he lets her boss him around. And she's a temperamental prima donna. He's getting paid a ton of money and they have to wonder if they are getting what they intended to pay for.

(10-10-2025 12:20 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-10-2025 12:00 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-09-2025 11:52 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 09:43 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 07:28 PM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  There are seven games left, and it isn’t exactly murderers’ row. I want to see what they can do.

It would be foolish and even more embarrassing IMO to push him out now. But the chancellor or somebody should come out and give a blatant vote of confidence. How can they expect a team to function while the administration is not supporting them?

Personally, I think BB will never be successful at UNC. I am firmly in the camp that thinks he never did anything without Brady and never will.

But I have to admit the rush to judgement on social media is kind of breathtaking. He's playing this season without his first crop of recruits and the big boost in NIL behind it, and we're just 5 games into the season.

It arguably is the fastest stampede of this kind ever.

Do you think it’s because of societal jealousy of his romance with Jordon Hudson?

Because we’re in unprecedented waters where a first-year coach (who has the credibility of a 6x Super Bowl Champion) without his first crop of recruits 5 games into a 2-3 tenure is the subject of a national witchhunt that will not be satisfied until he’s immediately terminated.

None of the above. There are factions using this as their personal political football and trying to gain favor by making it a folly for one group and a cause for another. Ramses is of two maybe three minds on this issue. You've heard of the 3 faces of Eve? Well, it has more to do with internal conflict over the direction of things at UNC and much less to do with Belichick or his babe. The side who landed him as coach is suffering the puffery and pillaring of the group that didn't want to and mixed into all of this are some academicians wanting potentially a different potential allegiance.

It's not the same but it reminds me a bit of Maryland's internal issues.

And frankly, he's come across like someone with dementia. The torn Tshirts, the way he lets her boss him around. And she's a temperamental prima donna. He's getting paid a ton of money and they have to wonder if they are getting what they intended to pay for.

I wouldn't argue against that the being the perception. I'm just saying there is more fueling the reaction than just Belichick. His fitness being called into question is a political football for more reasons than the apparent one and because of that the intensity over the situation is much more intense than just that of a potentially bad hire. It's not just about what it is about.

(10-10-2025 12:43 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-10-2025 12:20 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-10-2025 12:00 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-09-2025 11:52 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 09:43 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Personally, I think BB will never be successful at UNC. I am firmly in the camp that thinks he never did anything without Brady and never will.

But I have to admit the rush to judgement on social media is kind of breathtaking. He's playing this season without his first crop of recruits and the big boost in NIL behind it, and we're just 5 games into the season.

It arguably is the fastest stampede of this kind ever.

Do you think it’s because of societal jealousy of his romance with Jordon Hudson?

Because we’re in unprecedented waters where a first-year coach (who has the credibility of a 6x Super Bowl Champion) without his first crop of recruits 5 games into a 2-3 tenure is the subject of a national witchhunt that will not be satisfied until he’s immediately terminated.

None of the above. There are factions using this as their personal political football and trying to gain favor by making it a folly for one group and a cause for another. Ramses is of two maybe three minds on this issue. You've heard of the 3 faces of Eve? Well, it has more to do with internal conflict over the direction of things at UNC and much less to do with Belichick or his babe. The side who landed him as coach is suffering the puffery and pillaring of the group that didn't want to and mixed into all of this are some academicians wanting potentially a different potential allegiance.

It's not the same but it reminds me a bit of Maryland's internal issues.

And frankly, he's come across like someone with dementia. The torn Tshirts, the way he lets her boss him around. And she's a temperamental prima donna. He's getting paid a ton of money and they have to wonder if they are getting what they intended to pay for.

I wouldn't argue against that the being the perception. I'm just saying there is more fueling the reaction than just Belichick. His fitness being called into question is a political football for more reasons than the apparent one and because of that the intensity over the situation is much more intense than just that of a potentially bad hire. It's not just about what it is about.

With colleges, you never know what internal political undertones are going on.

(10-10-2025 12:59 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-10-2025 12:43 AM)JRsec Wrote:  I wouldn't argue against that the being the perception. I'm just saying there is more fueling the reaction than just Belichick. His fitness being called into question is a political football for more reasons than the apparent one and because of that the intensity over the situation is much more intense than just that of a potentially bad hire. It's not just about what it is about.

With colleges, you never know what internal political undertones are going on.

Or states. Or nations.

Look, no-one really cares that coach has a hottie, everyone does it, even Joe Pa did it way back in the day. But keep her away from the pressers and the locker room. Not all publicity is good publicity, having the biggest story about coach being that he's a leech is a terrible look for the school and, to recruits, just brings attention to the fact that he looks like a senile old haggard.

(10-10-2025 12:43 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-10-2025 12:20 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-10-2025 12:00 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-09-2025 11:52 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 09:43 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Personally, I think BB will never be successful at UNC. I am firmly in the camp that thinks he never did anything without Brady and never will.

But I have to admit the rush to judgement on social media is kind of breathtaking. He's playing this season without his first crop of recruits and the big boost in NIL behind it, and we're just 5 games into the season.

It arguably is the fastest stampede of this kind ever.

Do you think it’s because of societal jealousy of his romance with Jordon Hudson?

Because we’re in unprecedented waters where a first-year coach (who has the credibility of a 6x Super Bowl Champion) without his first crop of recruits 5 games into a 2-3 tenure is the subject of a national witchhunt that will not be satisfied until he’s immediately terminated.

None of the above. There are factions using this as their personal political football and trying to gain favor by making it a folly for one group and a cause for another. Ramses is of two maybe three minds on this issue. You've heard of the 3 faces of Eve? Well, it has more to do with internal conflict over the direction of things at UNC and much less to do with Belichick or his babe. The side who landed him as coach is suffering the puffery and pillaring of the group that didn't want to and mixed into all of this are some academicians wanting potentially a different potential allegiance.

It's not the same but it reminds me a bit of Maryland's internal issues.

And frankly, he's come across like someone with dementia. The torn Tshirts, the way he lets her boss him around. And she's a temperamental prima donna. He's getting paid a ton of money and they have to wonder if they are getting what they intended to pay for.

I wouldn't argue against that the being the perception. I'm just saying there is more fueling the reaction than just Belichick. His fitness being called into question is a political football for more reasons than the apparent one and because of that the intensity over the situation is much more intense than just that of a potentially bad hire. [b] It's not just about what it is about.[/b

True.

One of three made promises of immediate change and didn't deliver. Now they are trying to change the messaging to a re-build, that's after they ran off a lot of players and replaced them with lesser talent because of incompetence and a lack of knowledge of the college game.
At this point that faction has lost the fan base and most of the BMD's.

(10-10-2025 03:13 AM)The Beaver Wrote:  Look, no-one really cares that coach has a hottie, everyone does it, even Joe Pa did it way back in the day.
....

See also Thurmond, Strom.

North Carolinians over 40 are not plagued by special inhibitions on this point.

(10-09-2025 04:11 PM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  

(10-09-2025 11:18 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-09-2025 07:29 AM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 09:43 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-08-2025 07:28 PM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  There are seven games left, and it isn’t exactly murderers’ row. I want to see what they can do.

It would be foolish and even more embarrassing IMO to push him out now. But the chancellor or somebody should come out and give a blatant vote of confidence. How can they expect a team to function while the administration is not supporting them?

Personally, I think BB will never be successful at UNC. I am firmly in the camp that thinks he never did anything without Brady and never will.

But I have to admit the rush to judgement on social media is kind of breathtaking. He's playing this season without his first crop of recruits and the big boost in NIL behind it, and we're just 5 games into the season.

It arguably is the fastest stampede of this kind ever.

Well, he built elite defenses in NY and Cleveland and helped the Giants win two Super Bowls. The Patriots had some of the best defenses in the league during his run. They went 11-5 with perennial backup Matt Cassel and made the playoffs I believe once post-Brady.

It’s a lot easier for an elite QB to pick their destination (Tampa) than a coach to cobble the amount of players required to be successful.

So I disagree. Brady also had some great OC’s and he’d be the first to admit Belichick is a great coach.

I should clarify that when I say he "never did anything without Brady", I mean as an HC. He is unquestionably one of the great defensive minds in the history of football, and arguably the GOAT NFL defensive coordinator. But as an HC, his role at UNC now, IMO he was never anything without Brady, the data on that is IMO overwhelming.

Well, it’s actually not because as I pointed out his defenses were excellent to elite during Brady’s run. Brady handpicked a perfect situation in Tampa and had his TE join him.

Unless Brady was out there picking off passes and causing INTs and I missed it? Of course it’s silly to say one man wins Super Bowls because if that were the case I have to point out Dan Marino.

IMO, his HC record without Brady speaks for itself, and it's not a good one.