(09-11-2025 07:26 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 06:10 AM)otown Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 12:12 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

What can be done about this? It has gotten to the point that our press openly lies and feeds the public propaganda. Can the FCC get involved and pull their licenses since they are propaganda outlets? I know we dont want censorship, but we also dont want pure living propaganda either. One of the main reasons fox news is so successful with rating is that they have more balanced news. Sure, they have people on their opinion programs that are right of center, but their actual news segments and journalists are actually what their logo says, fair and balanced.

What we dont see is the fair and balanced from the other 99% of news outlets. They just lie and feed leftist propaganda, not just from their opinion shows, but from their actual journalists so called journalists in their news departments. Even when they try to be balanced, they create misleading headlines to subconsciously try to push a leftist narrative.

Fox kills all the other channels in ratings because of 3 reasons, the majority in this country actually are right of center and like their opinion shows, the majority in the country want unbiased news, and the majority of the country have no other choice as 99% of the rest of the channels are either left wing dirt bags blowing cesspool air or they have a propaganda news department.

So even if the country was majority of the country was leftist filth, which it is not, fox would still kill it in rating because they are in a room alone and the other 99% of traditional non streaming cable and OTA outlets are leftist propaganda trash.

Was this said on the air yesterday?

Honestly dont know. It certainly was at a point after 2 assassination attempts on Trump's life. If it was said yesterday, the bigger question is, would it surprise you?

Here is another interesting tidbit, and I suddenly realized that I myself was changed. When I started doing research about those 2 democratic politicians who were murdered in Minnesota, all I can find were articles from AP, NY times, NPR, NBC when I did Google searches. I started ignoring those outlets because I have lost all trust in them. I cannot trust their content, because they were caught red handed countless times of manipulating headlines, and flat out pushing leftist propaganda without even doing the most minimal amount of journalism to verify their story. When they get caught, the restract the story with an announcement on some little viewed obscure X feed and not their main feed. Latest example was that kid that supposedly the GHR and IDF murdered who was suddenly found alive and actually rescued to avoid Hamas killing him to fit their propganda narrative. So, there you have it, we have a BIG problem here. I cannot even do research with unbiased sources. Key here is that I am aware of this problem, but we have millions of useful idiots that are not and get indoctrinated.

(09-10-2025 08:11 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 07:56 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 07:41 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Hey, I cried, too, man. Then I got angry. (Heck, I'm still a little angry.)

This...

(09-10-2025 07:05 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  We can call this political violence, and tangentially it is, but it usually takes more than mean words to get somebody so angry that they wanna kill you.

bull****. (and I'm going apologize here for not holding my tongue on any of this).

I've been in my office trying to work and hearing about the shooting (i basically leave my non-work screen on x.. Today was the first day I honestly couldn't do it. this was literally the first day I had to keep "x' down as much as possible.


Remember
"Take it to the streets"?
"You've unleashed the whirlwind"?
"There will be a fight.. a street fight"?

Goddammit.. look at the people on TIKTOK that are ******* celebrating the death of a father and husband, because he INVITED KIDS to speak to him on college campuses about -anything- THEY WANTED TO DISCUSS, and he would try to prove them -wrong- if they were mistaken in their beliefs.

This is a man who was WARNING COLLEGE KIDS you're going to be in debt before you know it for a *******' worthless "piece of paper".

Charlie wanted teens and young adults to open their eyes and _THINK_ on their own. Use the Lord's words and really think about what they were standing for.

And some left-supporting assassin just took away a voice of reason for those kids, someone that fought _for_ them (Whether or not you agreed with what), he fought for blacks, whites, asians, indians, to be able to prove their MERIT for society.

So to any of you who want to disparage Charlie and his cause... I suggest you go do it while standing in front of his wife and children (did you know one of his little girl was reportedly in the tent with him?) and say the crap you're spewing out of your mouths.

Go say your crap in front of the kids and young adults he DID relate with whether on his school tours at a TPUSA meeting and who have nothing but wonderful things to say. Talk to people who met with him and disagreed with him, but had communications and discussions with those people.

Well said, man. (Though they're not going to because they're cowards.)

Well said?? To whom. Perhaps to someone who had disparaged Kirk. That certainly wasn't me and nothing I said deserved the personal attack included in his response. Remove the misdirected anger at me and I agree with everything he said. That's the irony of his attack on me.

I can handle being attacked by an idiot loon but I expect better from my so called allies.
It may be time for me to pull a andy and leave this place.

(09-11-2025 07:32 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 07:20 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Why isn't something being done about the MSM??

They're supposed to have standards, they have to be licensed by the FCC? How are they allowed to openly and blatantly lie to people? I think this is one of our biggest problems.

because any regulation would also apply to Fox News.

No it wouldn't. The Fox News journalism department is straight arrow and not propaganda. It's OK to have opinion shows, but the journalism should be unbiased. Thats why it wouldn't apply to Fox and apply to everyone else.

(09-10-2025 09:04 PM)b2b Wrote:  Say the wrong words and you deserve to get beat up or at the worst die. That's the left mentality now.

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Which was my point that DaChiefFan went off on me about.

(09-11-2025 07:47 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Well said?? To whom. Perhaps to someone who had disparaged Kirk. That certainly wasn't me and nothing I said deserved the personal attack included in his response. Remove the misdirected anger at me and I agree with everything he said. That's the irony of his attack on me.

I can handle being attacked by an idiot loon but I expect better from my so called allies.
It may be time for me to pull a andy and leave this place.

That had to be a misquote or something. His comment doesn't make sense in light of your own comments.

I have to assume its a posting error and was meant for someone else.

(09-11-2025 07:39 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 07:32 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 07:20 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Why isn't something being done about the MSM??

They're supposed to have standards, they have to be licensed by the FCC? How are they allowed to openly and blatantly lie to people? I think this is one of our biggest problems.

because any regulation would also apply to Fox News.

So be it. I know I, and am pretty such many many others, would have no issue with that at all.

I think most or all citizens would be. But why would the powers that be regulate their own little propaganda arm? And if the other side of the aisle was in power, the same for their own?

(09-11-2025 07:32 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 07:20 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Why isn't something being done about the MSM??

They're supposed to have standards, they have to be licensed by the FCC? How are they allowed to openly and blatantly lie to people? I think this is one of our biggest problems.

because any regulation would also apply to Fox News.

I'm including Fox News in the MSM numbnuts.

(09-11-2025 07:53 AM)otown Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 07:32 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 07:20 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Why isn't something being done about the MSM??

They're supposed to have standards, they have to be licensed by the FCC? How are they allowed to openly and blatantly lie to people? I think this is one of our biggest problems.

because any regulation would also apply to Fox News.

No it wouldn't. The Fox News journalism department is straight arrow and not propaganda. It's OK to have opinion shows, but the journalism should be unbiased. Thats why it wouldn't apply to Fox and apply to everyone else.

if this is satire then well done.

If this is what you actually believe I feel sorry for you, like I feel sorry for any person on the left that thinks that MSNBC is unbiased and its everyone else that has the problem.

(09-11-2025 07:57 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 07:32 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 07:20 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Why isn't something being done about the MSM??

They're supposed to have standards, they have to be licensed by the FCC? How are they allowed to openly and blatantly lie to people? I think this is one of our biggest problems.

because any regulation would also apply to Fox News.

I'm including Fox News in the MSM numbnuts.

well you're answering your own question. Why would a republican controlled congress or president cheetoh limit the power of their very own propaganda arm?

Why would a democrat congress and president do the same for their own?

(09-10-2025 09:04 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 07:56 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

He, of course, ignores that two Democratic lawmakers in Minnesota were killed recently.

Or that Communist gets thrown around at every mildly center-left person.

Come crying back to me when a radical right winger guns down a mild mannered, God fearing, GOOD husband, father and role model for American youth leftist - I know, there are none.

And every center-left person will vote for whoever is nominated by the DNC. Whether they are communist or not matters none, the large majority of the useful idiots on your side aren't even astute enough to notice that the left is led by marxists and that our country is heading down the road towards marxism as the dominant political ideology.

A poll was just released declaring that more and more of our young idiots are showing positive views toward socialism. The idiots don't understand that socialism is merely the economic engine that drives a state toward communism. You're probably OK with it too, huh?

(09-11-2025 08:01 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 07:57 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 07:32 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 07:20 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Why isn't something being done about the MSM??

They're supposed to have standards, they have to be licensed by the FCC? How are they allowed to openly and blatantly lie to people? I think this is one of our biggest problems.

because any regulation would also apply to Fox News.

I'm including Fox News in the MSM numbnuts.

well you're answering your own question. Why would a republican controlled congress or president cheetoh limit the power of their very own propaganda arm?

Why would a democrat congress and president do the same for their own?

Congratulations on recognizing the problem, but that was not my question.

(09-11-2025 07:57 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 07:39 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 07:32 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 07:20 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Why isn't something being done about the MSM??

They're supposed to have standards, they have to be licensed by the FCC? How are they allowed to openly and blatantly lie to people? I think this is one of our biggest problems.

because any regulation would also apply to Fox News.

So be it. I know I, and am pretty such many many others, would have no issue with that at all.

I think most or all citizens would be. But why would the powers that be regulate their own little propaganda arm? And if the other side of the aisle was in power, the same for their own?

Lying and libeling public figures by calling them Nazis and "threats to democracy" is clearly a call to action.

Do you not agree?

(09-11-2025 06:57 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 06:52 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Ironic in that Charlie's approach was one of peace and love. He welcomed all who wanted to debate him, and did it with style and grace.

Did he say some things leftists didn't like? Sure. Did he propagate hate and discontent? Hell no.

Well, anything anyone says they disagree with is considered hate.

See the dean's comments above. That's the mentality. It's sad and pathetic. And of course dangerous.

Of course. All that. My point was Charlie, of all people, did nothing to justify that. Yet somebody decided he needed to be dead.

That sure as hell is dangerous.

(09-11-2025 08:02 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 08:01 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 07:57 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 07:32 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 07:20 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Why isn't something being done about the MSM??

They're supposed to have standards, they have to be licensed by the FCC? How are they allowed to openly and blatantly lie to people? I think this is one of our biggest problems.

because any regulation would also apply to Fox News.

I'm including Fox News in the MSM numbnuts.

well you're answering your own question. Why would a republican controlled congress or president cheetoh limit the power of their very own propaganda arm?

Why would a democrat congress and president do the same for their own?

Congratulations on recognizing the problem, but that was not my question.

The answer to your question is to not watch. Turn fox news off. Don't watch it.

The idiot who surmised it may have been a Kirk supporter who shot him has been fired. Thankfully. Nobody that stupid should be on TV.

(09-10-2025 09:04 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 07:56 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

He, of course, ignores that two Democratic lawmakers in Minnesota were killed recently.

The murder of the Hortmans was equally evil, and equally worthy of public rebuke, as the murder of Charlie Kirk. I will say, though, that as far we can tell, the Hortmans were not murdered because of their political beliefs. We shall see if the same holds true for the Kirk slaying.

Quote:Or that Communist gets thrown around at every mildly center-left person.

As attack-adjectives, “Communist”, “Fascist” — not to mention “racist” — have all been rendered very cheap (if not totally worthless) from overuse and exaggeration.

I finally watched the kill shot video. Damn, he was dead before anybody ever got to him.

Again the left wing playbook

White person kills a black person = racism
black guy kills a white person = system failed the shooter/slavery
white mass shooter = white supremacy and/or gun control
black mass shooter = completely ignore
black on black crime = ignore but when subject is brought up, blame guns

(09-10-2025 09:14 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  Things were bad after Trump's assassination attempt, but as a politcal figure who the left have hated for so long I hated it but at least had an objective understanding of it.

Then the killing of the insurance guy, I started to see how the left was loosening the definition of symbolic causes of suffering. No doubt that guy oversaw and probably made some business decisions that caused suffering, but he was a cog in a multi-billion dollar machine.

This though. I have not been this sickened by the general population in a very long time. Even if you didn't agree with Charlie, even if he said some things you felt were incompassionate, he was just a guy that went around trying to engage people in political conversations at colleges. There is nothing to celebrate here. I have read comments on facebook from 2nd degree friends saying there are always going to be casualties in revolutions. This is ******* madness and it has to stop. We used to be a country that bitched and sulked for a couple years when our team lost in the election but it just drove people to try harder the next go around.

I did not agree with what alot of Charlie said, but I still probably watched 10-15 minutes of his clips every day just because I enjoyed how he interacted with people even it was clear he thought they were idiots. There is no reason why he should have been murdered.

I don't post on facebook very often, but I put this out today. This week will be a turning point in the history of our country just like the George Floyd protests. The events in Charlotte and Utah will not go unanswered. The left always screams about oppression and persecution while the right silently has been taking hit after hit. I pray for peace, but I do fear an escalation in violence is coming.

This.

The elements committing these atrocities aren't your average teen-aged school kid. They aren't some pipe fitter from the Midwest. They aren't teachers from rural Arkansas or bankers from Wall St. They aren't your neighbor down the street who has 2 kids, a wife and a job. They are radical nutjobs or cold blooded killers. And these are not just random events of violence. IMO they are well coordinated, well financed events put together by some activist group or another. Or it could have been a lone wolf operation wherein some dude who is teetering right on the edge, someone under a lot of stress, someone experiencing huge amounts of frustration, anger and resentment over something, whether perceived or real, hears a comment from one of our irresponsible and unaccountable leaders mouthing off using violent rhetoric and decides to act.

If I'm the FBI, I'm poring over every interview Kirk had at every campus or any other forum in which he participated in which someone vehemently disagreed with him and responded with anger. There are quite a few, one in particular I saw recently featured a college professor screaming at Kirk threatening him with physical harm.

(09-11-2025 08:10 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  The answer to your question is to not watch. Turn fox news off. Don't watch it.

I don't watch any MSM, at all, other than very rarely Fox, and I take them with a grain of salt. I watched some Fox yesterday simply because of Kirk's death, and I watched it on Rumble, cause I ain't paying for ANY MSM.

You're preaching to the choir filthboy.