Quote:“Based on the fact that there’s a substantial chance of negotiation that may or may not take place with Iran in the near future, I will make my decision whether or not to go in the next two weeks,” trump said in a statement read aloud by Leavitt.

This guy...clear as mud!

And it's A L W A Y S two weeks.

Tom, do you have Velcro attached to the back of your hand to hold it against your forehead?

(06-20-2025 07:48 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  There is also the issue of bombing the pshit out of the Uranium stores and causing a dirty bomb scenario. If the bombs do get to the Uranium there is a very good chance it gets released. Keeping that from happening is above my pay grade.

Enriched uranium or U-235 can be chemically and radiologically toxic, particularly if its inhaled in large doses, but U-235 and even its pre-enriched form U-238 if stored there do not put off massive radiological signals. They are alpha emitters with very weak penetrating ability or ability to travel. The greatest risk would come in the form of an inhalation hazard on the surface such as like with a dirty bomb, but you have to remember the site is roughly 250-300 below ground so, most of it is going to be buried.

(06-20-2025 07:48 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  There is also the issue of bombing the pshit out of the Uranium stores and causing a dirty bomb scenario. If the bombs do get to the Uranium there is a very good chance it gets released. Keeping that from happening is above my pay grade.

If it happens, don't care.

Israel over the store intercom:

"Cleanup In Aisle 238"

(06-20-2025 08:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:“Based on the fact that there’s a substantial chance of negotiation that may or may not take place with Iran in the near future, I will make my decision whether or not to go in the next two weeks,” trump said in a statement read aloud by Leavitt.

This guy...clear as mud!

And it's A L W A Y S two weeks.

Would you rather we just bomb Iran today?

(06-20-2025 09:22 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-20-2025 08:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:“Based on the fact that there’s a substantial chance of negotiation that may or may not take place with Iran in the near future, I will make my decision whether or not to go in the next two weeks,” trump said in a statement read aloud by Leavitt.

This guy...clear as mud!

And it's A L W A Y S two weeks.

Would you rather we just bomb Iran today?

He'd still beech.

(06-20-2025 09:22 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-20-2025 08:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:“Based on the fact that there’s a substantial chance of negotiation that may or may not take place with Iran in the near future, I will make my decision whether or not to go in the next two weeks,” trump said in a statement read aloud by Leavitt.

This guy...clear as mud!

And it's A L W A Y S two weeks.

Would you rather we just bomb Iran today?

I would rather we don't get involved in another war in the ME or even approach any more "nation building."

(06-20-2025 09:22 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-20-2025 08:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:“Based on the fact that there’s a substantial chance of negotiation that may or may not take place with Iran in the near future, I will make my decision whether or not to go in the next two weeks,” trump said in a statement read aloud by Leavitt.

This guy...clear as mud!

And it's A L W A Y S two weeks.

Would you rather we just bomb Iran today?

No, he prefers Trump give the time and date like that idiot "reporter" asked him the other day.

(06-20-2025 11:11 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(06-20-2025 09:22 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-20-2025 08:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:“Based on the fact that there’s a substantial chance of negotiation that may or may not take place with Iran in the near future, I will make my decision whether or not to go in the next two weeks,” trump said in a statement read aloud by Leavitt.

This guy...clear as mud!

And it's A L W A Y S two weeks.

Would you rather we just bomb Iran today?

No, he prefers Trump give the time and date like that idiot "reporter" asked him the other day.

Are you sure he doesn't prefer that Trump do what Biden did, which was turn a blind eye to the sanctions he himself (Trump) put in place during his first administration? I think so.

Any deal made at this point by Iranians won’t be worth the cost of the ink used in printing it once Trump leaves office.

All nukes need to be destroyed. That should not even be up for questioning.

The real question you have to ask yourself seeing Iran upgrading the fuel to 60% is: Do you trust Iran? What are they doing with the excess ? I have absolutely no faith in religious zealots.

The Israelis also need to destroy all of their oil reserves and refineries. China has been purchasing their oil regardless of our sanctions.

Chinese cargo planes have still been flying into Iran even as this war rages. What are they delivering? Extracting?

Apparently there was quite a number of Chinese in Iran looking at the evacuation numbers.

China and Russia seem to enjoy nefarious activities and doing business in Iran.

Blowing up their nukes and destroying all munitions and oil capabilities would cripple all three couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch.

So, as far as new leadership in Iran I’ll take my chances because the current one has already proven to be diabolical bunch

(06-20-2025 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-20-2025 09:22 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-20-2025 08:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:“Based on the fact that there’s a substantial chance of negotiation that may or may not take place with Iran in the near future, I will make my decision whether or not to go in the next two weeks,” trump said in a statement read aloud by Leavitt.

This guy...clear as mud!

And it's A L W A Y S two weeks.

Would you rather we just bomb Iran today?

I would rather we don't get involved in another war in the ME or even approach any more "nation building."

I agree. However, that ship probably sailed when the US decided to finance Iran's attacks on other nations. That's on us.

(06-20-2025 11:27 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Any deal made at this point by Iranians won’t be worth the cost of the ink used in printing it once Trump leaves office.

All nukes need to be destroyed. That should not even be up for questioning.

The real question you have to ask yourself seeing Iran upgrading the fuel to 60% is: Do you trust Iran? What are they doing with the excess ? I have absolutely no faith in religious zealots.

The Israelis also need to destroy all of their oil reserves and refineries. China has been purchasing their oil regardless of our sanctions.

Chinese cargo planes have still been flying into Iran even as this war rages. What are they delivering? Extracting?

Apparently there was quite a number of Chinese in Iran looking at the evacuation numbers.

China and Russia seem to enjoy nefarious activities and doing business in Iran.

Blowing up their nukes and destroying all munitions and oil capabilities would cripple all three couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch.

So, as far as new leadership in Iran I’ll take my chances because the current one has already proven to be diabolical bunch

83.5%, not 60%. They are only a few days away from putting that at the 90% threshold to make a nuclear bomb.

(06-20-2025 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-20-2025 09:22 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-20-2025 08:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:“Based on the fact that there’s a substantial chance of negotiation that may or may not take place with Iran in the near future, I will make my decision whether or not to go in the next two weeks,” trump said in a statement read aloud by Leavitt.

This guy...clear as mud!

And it's A L W A Y S two weeks.

Would you rather we just bomb Iran today?

I would rather we don't get involved in another war in the ME or even approach any more "nation building."

Since Tom has me on ignore, because he can't win an argument, would someone else like to remind him that Iran would be nowhere close to a nuke if not for Obama and Biden giving them loads of cash and a "deal" that did nothing to slow them down from getting one.

(06-20-2025 11:36 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(06-20-2025 11:27 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Any deal made at this point by Iranians won’t be worth the cost of the ink used in printing it once Trump leaves office.

All nukes need to be destroyed. That should not even be up for questioning.

The real question you have to ask yourself seeing Iran upgrading the fuel to 60% is: Do you trust Iran? What are they doing with the excess ? I have absolutely no faith in religious zealots.

The Israelis also need to destroy all of their oil reserves and refineries. China has been purchasing their oil regardless of our sanctions.

Chinese cargo planes have still been flying into Iran even as this war rages. What are they delivering? Extracting?

Apparently there was quite a number of Chinese in Iran looking at the evacuation numbers.

China and Russia seem to enjoy nefarious activities and doing business in Iran.

Blowing up their nukes and destroying all munitions and oil capabilities would cripple all three couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch.

So, as far as new leadership in Iran I’ll take my chances because the current one has already proven to be diabolical bunch

83.5%, not 60%. They are only a few days away from putting that at the 90% threshold to make a nuclear bomb.

I haven’t seen 83.5% but whether that number or 60% only a fool believes it’s for constructive purposes based on their past history

Some of these peace at whatever costs podcasters are just lying to themselves into believing they are not going to make nuclear weapons and even if they do as in NK they won’t use them

It’s Fools gold thinking

(06-20-2025 11:44 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(06-20-2025 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-20-2025 09:22 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-20-2025 08:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:“Based on the fact that there’s a substantial chance of negotiation that may or may not take place with Iran in the near future, I will make my decision whether or not to go in the next two weeks,” trump said in a statement read aloud by Leavitt.

This guy...clear as mud!

And it's A L W A Y S two weeks.

Would you rather we just bomb Iran today?

I would rather we don't get involved in another war in the ME or even approach any more "nation building."

Since Tom has me on ignore, because he can't win an argument, would someone else like to remind him that Iran would be nowhere close to a nuke if not for Obama and Biden giving them loads of cash and a "deal" that did nothing to slow them down from getting one.

My knee jerk response to respond to him like Tanq is only beneficial if I’m able to overtly expose them as agitators or miscreants with no real meaningful purpose to the discussion.

TDS has forever warped their brains

Anything they project is nothing more than contortion of actual reality

(06-20-2025 08:28 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(06-20-2025 07:48 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  There is also the issue of bombing the pshit out of the Uranium stores and causing a dirty bomb scenario. If the bombs do get to the Uranium there is a very good chance it gets released. Keeping that from happening is above my pay grade.

Enriched uranium or U-235 can be chemically and radiologically toxic, particularly if its inhaled in large doses, but U-235 and even its pre-enriched form U-238 if stored there do not put off massive radiological signals. They are alpha emitters with very weak penetrating ability or ability to travel. The greatest risk would come in the form of an inhalation hazard on the surface such as like with a dirty bomb, but you have to remember the site is roughly 250-300 below ground so, most of it is going to be buried.

They took out the Iranian heavy water plant (the same one the Iranians claimed was no longer active) that was apparently being used to produce plutonium. A huge super heated steam cloud was released in the strike (meaning the plant was clearly active)---Id be curious if any plutonium was released in the strike as it seems to me plutonium might be something one would not want floating around in the atmosphere.

(06-20-2025 07:33 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(06-20-2025 07:08 AM)TripleA Wrote:  IAEA Director said yesterday that Iran currently has enough uranium to make several bombs, and could do it in a matter of days.

American Intel confirmed.

OTOH, there is no indication of the final steps yet taking place.

That really should make Trump's decision easy, in my opinion. But that's because I don't believe Khamenei will make a deal. He is, again, the leader of the biggest state sponsor of Islamic terrorism. He kinda has to try to save face with his terrorist proxies in the rest of the Middle East. Not to mention he's the leader of a death cult that's hell bent on issuing in the coming of the Third Imam.

I don't think Trump is giving two weeks because of negotiations, I think he is giving that time frame because Bibi stated they could get the job done in two weeks.

(06-20-2025 11:44 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(06-20-2025 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-20-2025 09:22 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-20-2025 08:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:“Based on the fact that there’s a substantial chance of negotiation that may or may not take place with Iran in the near future, I will make my decision whether or not to go in the next two weeks,” trump said in a statement read aloud by Leavitt.

This guy...clear as mud!

And it's A L W A Y S two weeks.

Would you rather we just bomb Iran today?

I would rather we don't get involved in another war in the ME or even approach any more "nation building."

Since Tom has me on ignore, because he can't win an argument, would someone else like to remind him that Iran would be nowhere close to a nuke if not for Obama and Biden giving them loads of cash and a "deal" that did nothing to slow them down from getting one.

Don't forget releasing sanctions that allowed them to double the amount of Oil they sold during the past 4 years.
The 10 year graph doesn't lie.
https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/ir...production

"Chinese cargo planes have still been flying into Iran even as this war rages. What are they delivering? Extracting?

Apparently there was quite a number of Chinese in Iran looking at the evacuation numbers.

China and Russia seem to enjoy nefarious activities and doing business in Iran."

Perhaps China and Russia are to Iran what Iran is to the Houthis, Hamas, and others, enablers.

Wouldn't they just love it if Iran took the brunt of Americas retaliation in Abombs after they supply Iran the means to nuke the US. Those two could just sit in their patios watching America and Iran bomb the Schiff out of each other without the US retaliation against THEM.

(06-20-2025 12:51 PM)hburg Wrote:  

(06-20-2025 07:33 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(06-20-2025 07:08 AM)TripleA Wrote:  IAEA Director said yesterday that Iran currently has enough uranium to make several bombs, and could do it in a matter of days.

American Intel confirmed.

OTOH, there is no indication of the final steps yet taking place.

That really should make Trump's decision easy, in my opinion. But that's because I don't believe Khamenei will make a deal. He is, again, the leader of the biggest state sponsor of Islamic terrorism. He kinda has to try to save face with his terrorist proxies in the rest of the Middle East. Not to mention he's the leader of a death cult that's hell bent on issuing in the coming of the Third Imam.

I don't think Trump is giving two weeks because of negotiations, I think he is giving that time frame because Bibi stated they could get the job done in two weeks.

I think it also could be that we are still moving military assets into place.