The finding does not surprise me in the least because the suppleness of thought by Dem's borders on rigor mortis.

Source: British Journal of Social Psychology. The specific study cited is titled "Examining the structure of political attitudes: Greater attitude diversity on the political right than the left in the United States," authored by Verhulst, B., & Kitschelt, H., and published on June 11, 2025

...and that study proves what we say on this site, we don't march to the Republican drum, like the Demonics. We make our own judgments and sometimes we even argue amongst ourselves. When have you ever seen the Paid Commies and their allies do that? They get their talking points from the main office and boy, do they stick to them, even if it makes them look stupid.

It's so bad that DEI who they claimed was for diversity, was in fact it the opposite.

Makes sense. Out of all the DEI crap I've attended over the years, the one that's always left out is "diversity of thought." There's a reason for that.

That's a giant DUH.

It's not just the lockstep ideology that is problematic for the left. It is the policing of contrary views.

As many times as I have been called "progfilth" or a "TDS" sufferer or something else rude, it has always been in the spirit of engagement. If I can't hold my own in an argument on this forum, it not because one of you guys has been rude but more often than not it is because my argument needs some work.

Not so from our leftists. It is either drive-by talking points (Tom is the most prominent example) or dishonest filibustering (tanq.). That may succeed in spoiling an otherwise worthwhile discussion. But it does nothing to change minds or advance people's thinking.

What has become of the intellectual left is very sad.

Here's the extent of diverse thought on the left...

WHEN ARE THE NEXT TALKING POINTS COMING OUT????

(06-12-2025 02:29 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  It's not just the lockstep ideology that is problematic for the left. It is the policing of contrary views.

As many times as I have been called "progfilth" or a "TDS" sufferer or something else rude, it has always been in the spirit of engagement. If I can't hold my own in an argument on this forum, it not because one of you guys has been rude but more often than not it is because my argument needs some work.

Not so from our leftists. It is either drive-by talking points (Tom is the most prominent example) or dishonest filibustering (tanq.). That may succeed in spoiling an otherwise worthwhile discussion. But it does nothing to change minds or advance people's thinking.

What has become of the intellectual left is very sad.

Yep, and they seemingly don't care to understand that.

Oh, well. Let them go down with their ship.

Prog filth

(06-12-2025 02:38 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Here's the extent of diverse thought on the left...

WHEN ARE THE NEXT TALKING POINTS COMING OUT????

I’d like to know who issues the talking points and how it is disseminated. It is remarkable hearing the same parroted lines uttered so quickly. Off the top of my head, it is actually the only thing Dem’s perform with competence lately that comes to mind.

(06-12-2025 03:06 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-12-2025 02:38 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Here's the extent of diverse thought on the left...

WHEN ARE THE NEXT TALKING POINTS COMING OUT????

I’d like to know who issues the talking points and how it is disseminated. It is remarkable hearing the same parroted lines uttered so quickly. Off the top of my head, it is actually the only thing Dem’s perform with competence lately that comes to mind.

Reddit. Facebook. I presume.

It is funny how they all come out with the same comments at almost exactly the same time. And its across many boards, not just this site. Its as if they were the Borg. One hive mind.

(06-12-2025 05:26 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-12-2025 03:06 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-12-2025 02:38 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Here's the extent of diverse thought on the left...

WHEN ARE THE NEXT TALKING POINTS COMING OUT????

I’d like to know who issues the talking points and how it is disseminated. It is remarkable hearing the same parroted lines uttered so quickly. Off the top of my head, it is actually the only thing Dem’s perform with competence lately that comes to mind.

Reddit. Facebook. I presume.

It is funny how they all come out with the same comments at almost exactly the same time. And its across many boards, not just this site. Its as if they were the Borg. One hive mind.

It doesn't have to come from a queen bee.

When your ideology is rigid and inflexible, the natural response comes quickly to everyone who holds it.



In the 90s & early 00s, it was Republicans who had a less diverse ideology. This was viewed as a strength.

90s Democrats were a hodgepodge of interest groups who were opposed to Reagan conservatism. Immigrants, gays, blacks, latinos, feminists, hippies, unions, socialists, Jews, classical social liberals, cultural progressives, and anti-Reagan moderates.

Those factions were hopelessly at odds with each other. Blacks & unions & 2nd generation Latinos had fundamentally different incentives than pro-immigrant groups. Blacks, Latinos, and devout Jews hated the policies that were most near and dear to social liberals and gays. Moderates and immigrants thought the socialists were worse than Reaganites, and only voted with them because they thought socialists could never get enough strength to turn their initiatives into policy.

Today, Republicans face some of the same fractures. Libertarians and conservatives have constant clashes. Working class voters clash with both libertarians and conservatives. Etc, etc.

However, the difference between the 90s and today is that the less diverse party (Reagan conservatism) a) had an internally consistent ideology, and b) did not eat its own.


Today's Democrats are completely lost because anyone who disagrees with the party line is thrown out. RFK, Jim Justice, Tulsi, Sinema, Manchin, Andrew Yang. Cultural icons like Musk, Rogan, Kanye West, Dave Chappelle. You could also count JK Rowling.

And it's difficult to agree with the party line 100% of the time when its inconsistencies are so blatantly obvious.

So today the Republican party has the opportunity to gain more and more voters as those voters are exiled by the Democrats.

I don't think you remember the 70s/80s/90s. There were some bloodbaths between the factions of the Republican Party. You had the Reagan wing. The Bush/Ford/Nixon wing. You even had a Rockefeller/Romney wing on the left. And you had the Buchanan wing which were the "anarchists" of the party, willing to burn everything down if they didn't get their way. And then you had the Perot voters who were fiscal conservatives.

I'll take "Things that make you go No Duh" for $1000

Yep. Why is this even a conversation?

The left is homogeneous and any divergent views are met with some ism or ist

The right is a dozen different political sub parties under one umbrella. Has been for decades.

Divergent views in the Democratic Party are apparently being met with bullets now.

(06-14-2025 06:37 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Divergent views in the Democratic Party are apparently being met with bullets now.

Not apparent, literally….

The Dem’s have a violence problem which I fear is a feature and not a bug.

Bearcat's & bullet's posts are interesting. For the most part the Parties are still set up that way.

That makes me think the chart's agenda is 'the Democrats are unified' where the 'Republicans disagree on everything & will break apart.' The truth is both parties are big tent still.

The fallacy of this is the concept of leftist thought even existing. They don’t think, every reaction is a conditioned response. Thought requires accepting and processing input. Anyone that has tried to have a discussion with a lefty knows they don’t accept input, they just react.

(06-15-2025 11:29 AM)banker Wrote:  The fallacy of this is the concept of leftist thought even existing. They don’t think, every reaction is a conditioned response. Thought requires accepting and processing input. Anyone that has tried to have a discussion with a lefty knows they don’t accept input, they just react.

Well, that includes everybody here, lol.