I say decertify all political parties, let all politicians run on their own merit, and have people just vote on individuals.

The two-party system is destroying the country and I support almost any effort to replace it with something else.

However, the two-party system is also, for good or ill, the one unchanging reality in national politics of the past 160+ years. Difficult to see a way for that to change, unfortunately.

^^ And this guy agrees with you.

I'm starting to get bad vibes from Elon. Not evil genius takes over the world bad but something doesn't appear right.

(06-07-2025 04:47 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  I'm starting to get bad vibes from Elon. Not evil genius takes over the world bad but something doesn't appear right.

Autistic, maybe?

And he's not too careful with jabs, either. He put that out about Trump and Epstein, and had it immediately shot down by Epstein's lawyer, in a statement that the lawyer had published before.

Not sure, but I think Trump could perhaps sue him for that.

But beyond that, he seems to make some questionable comments when pressed, that can be easily refuted. It's like he's not used to being questioned, and is sensitive about it.

I think the world, and especially the USA, owes Musk a lot, for him saving free speech in this country, but there is definitely something a bit off with him.

Sounds funny when talking about a dude who is at times almost twice as rich as anybody else in the world.

(06-06-2025 09:06 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  The two-party system is destroying the country and I support almost any effort to replace it with something else.

However, the two-party system is also, for good or ill, the one unchanging reality in national politics of the past 160+ years. Difficult to see a way for that to change, unfortunately.

His net worth dropped 35 billion on Thursday and he didn't even feel it.

If he bankrolls a party to the tune of tens of billions, with twitter/X backing it...all starts to feel a little creepy.

I said it last summer...great friend to have in your corner but don't ever make him angry.

Musk will be in jail if Democrats take back the White House in 2029. Their base hates billionaires, and the idea of DOGE trying to curb federal spending is highly offensive to them.

(06-07-2025 07:24 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  Musk will be in jail if Democrats take back the White House in 2029. Their base hates billionaires, and the idea of DOGE trying to curb federal spending is highly offensive to them.

Not to mention, the Dems had the most organized censorship effort ever assembled in this country, under Biden, and Musk was the bane of that effort.

(06-07-2025 07:24 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  Musk will be in jail if Democrats take back the White House in 2029. Their base hates billionaires, and the idea of DOGE trying to curb federal spending is highly offensive to them.

So will Trump.

(06-07-2025 07:53 AM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(06-07-2025 07:24 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  Musk will be in jail if Democrats take back the White House in 2029. Their base hates billionaires, and the idea of DOGE trying to curb federal spending is highly offensive to them.

So will Trump.

Democrats don't hate billionaires. They just hate people who disagree with their warped and destructive worldview, regardless if they are rich or not.

Musk knows he can't ever be President, right?

(06-07-2025 08:42 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Musk knows he can't ever be President, right?

Obama became President, and we all know the story behind that.

(06-07-2025 05:00 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-07-2025 04:47 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  I'm starting to get bad vibes from Elon. Not evil genius takes over the world bad but something doesn't appear right.

… But beyond that, he seems to make some questionable comments when pressed, that can be easily refuted. It's like he's not used to being questioned, and is sensitive about it.

I think the world, and especially the USA, owes Musk a lot, for him saving free speech in this country, but there is definitely something a bit off with him.

Like many highly successful people — Ross Perot, Bill Gates, etc. — Musk has gone many years without ever hearing someone in his own personal circle defy his wishes. It just doesn’t happen. Sure, they knows from media that lots of people “out there” hate them. But in terms of their 1:1 relationships, they are not dealing with any pushback in their day-to-day lives. And when you multiply that experience over days/months/years, it gets more difficult to read the room, because people act differently when you are in the room.

(06-07-2025 09:05 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(06-07-2025 05:00 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-07-2025 04:47 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  I'm starting to get bad vibes from Elon. Not evil genius takes over the world bad but something doesn't appear right.

… But beyond that, he seems to make some questionable comments when pressed, that can be easily refuted. It's like he's not used to being questioned, and is sensitive about it.

I think the world, and especially the USA, owes Musk a lot, for him saving free speech in this country, but there is definitely something a bit off with him.

Like many highly successful people — Ross Perot, Bill Gates, etc. — Musk has gone many years without ever hearing someone in his own personal circle defy his wishes. It just doesn’t happen. Sure, they knows from media that lots of people “out there” hate them. But in terms of their 1:1 relationships, they are not dealing with any pushback in their day-to-day lives. And when you multiply that experience over days/months/years, it gets more difficult to read the room, because people act differently when you are in the room.

Agree. I'm well aware of that. Was simply trying not to be so definitive, lol. I was hinting. :)

(06-07-2025 07:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-07-2025 07:24 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  Musk will be in jail if Democrats take back the White House in 2029. Their base hates billionaires, and the idea of DOGE trying to curb federal spending is highly offensive to them.

Not to mention, the Dems had the most organized censorship effort ever assembled in this country, under Biden, and Musk was the bane of that effort.

This is what they would love to do in the USA. BTW the government censorship efforts are 100% illegal. Nobody has been prosecuted.

Brazilian comedian sentenced to jail for racist, homophobic jokes

São Paulo, Brazil – A São Paulo court on Tuesday sentenced Brazilian comedian Léo Lins, 42, to eight years and three months in prison for charges of defamation and hate speech, following a criminal case brought by federal prosecutors in 2023.

The charges stemmed from a stand-up comedy performance in Curitiba in 2022, in which Lins targeted several minority and vulnerable groups. The show was later posted on YouTube, where it quickly went viral.

Before a crowd of roughly 4,000 people, Lins made jokes targeting elderly people, Black and Indigenous Brazilians, people with HIV, the LGBTQ+ community, evangelical Christians, Jews, people with disabilities — and even referenced pedophilia in his routine.

Among the jokes included in the performance were statements such as:

“I’m fat! I love eating and hate working out. How am I going to lose weight? Get AIDS! Don’t you love eating everything? Go sleep with unprotected gay men! It’ll work eventually!”
“I’m totally against pedophilia — I’m more in favor of incest. If you’re going to abuse a child, abuse your own. What’s he going to do? Tell his dad?”
“I saw a poll online asking: ‘What do you say right after sex?’ I replied: ‘Don’t tell your mom and I’ll get you a doll.’”
“Prejudice, to me, is a primitive thing that shouldn’t exist anymore. Just like Indigenous people. Enough already.”

https://www.brazilreports.com/brazilian-...okes/7036/

That comedian is pretty crude. I guess they figured imprisoning him would be the only way to shut him up. No one can hear him from jail.


As for Musk forming a new party, what's even in his platform? It'll be interesting to find out if he's serious.

I don't think he's all there even when he was on Trumps side. He seemed a little nutso. I guess the thing that drove him further away from Trump is the fact that he tried to get in contact with him 63 times, per Jesse Watter and Trump ignoring him.

Lots of questions in the news media about who is looking better or worse in this feud. Almost universally, it seems to be the consensus that Trump is looking better.

(06-07-2025 10:05 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Lots of questions in the news media about who is looking better or worse in this feud. Almost universally, it seems to be the consensus that Trump is looking better.

That was the plan after all.

...at least by Musk's actions Trump won't be criticized for calling his "nutso"...because it seems he is, deranged a bit.

The only way a 3rd political party ever gets off the ground is if you break up the democrat bloc. GOPers don't seem to have an issue breaking up the GOP, but if you don't pull the middle-left you aren't doing anything but ensuring dems win elections.