If Poland is "Next", then why don't they get on the offensive? I ask again for the 100th time, why does the US have to lead? And Russia IS weak, and China knows it. They will not do a damn thing to assist in this. The North Koreans have joined the fray and when they capture soldiers they are confused why the prisoners aren't South Koreans. The North Korean army is only good at one thing. Parades. Poland could end this by the weekend if they were worried they are "next".

(06-05-2025 09:07 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 09:00 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 08:50 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 07:37 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Who cares if the war ends or not?

Well, apparently your president does.
Why are you so elementary about this?

Because this is a message board and not real life. It's a distraction and often fun, but it's never serious. I'm sorry if it's all the life you have.

More passive aggression. You are a hoot. My life is just fine. No need to worry about me if you’re not even worrying about Ukraine and Russia.

I wasn't worried about you. Go look up the definition of "sarcasm". Apply it to the majority of my posts.

" Putin knows his best chance to advance in Ukraine & Europe is with Trump as President, so he won’t quit." El Menso

Do you mean the same Putin who got permission from Ol' Foggy to "just take a tad off the top, please."

(06-05-2025 09:28 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  If Poland is "Next", then why don't they get on the offensive? I ask again for the 100th time, why does the US have to lead? And Russia IS weak, and China knows it. They will not do a damn thing to assist in this. The North Koreans have joined the fray and when they capture soldiers they are confused why the prisoners aren't South Koreans. The North Korean army is only good at one thing. Parades. Poland could end this by the weekend if they were worried they are "next".

Because since World War II, we've been the world's police force and they're used to us doing that. I mean it's our fault, too. They know we'll bail them out when the proverbial sh*t really hits the fan. All it should take is just one instance of us, for once, letting them sink or swim on their own for them to get their act together. Should it be this time? Well, no because that ship sailed the moment we started giving Ukraine money and munitions to fight back against the Russians. That said, Europe needs to step up and take the lead on this.

(06-05-2025 08:44 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 08:40 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 08:07 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 08:02 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The last thing Putin wants is a fully NATO commitment in Ukraine & he’s banking on Trump’s TACO diplomacy to serve as the delay he needs to buy the time he needs to lay claim to as much land as he can steal. Ukraine knows Trump only wants a deal & doesn’t care what he barters away as long as he can politically claim victory at home; so they will keep attacking inside Russia and lean on the EU & Great Britain for support.

The only way this comes to an end is for the US & NATO to fully back Ukrainian efforts… minus troop commitments….
Russia has to start experiencing more of these significant losses.

Not happening.

The only way this ends is for both sides to stop their retarded unreasonable ceasefire demands.

Russia gets Crimea and part of the Donbas. Ukraine gets to do whatever it wants with their sovereignty intact.

Thats the list.

Ukraine knows this doesn’t end with Crimea & Donbas, so they will not quit. Putin knows his best chance to advance in Ukraine & Europe is with Trump as President, so he won’t quit. Trump had better grow a set and start supporting the Ukrainians or his legacy will be as the President who lost Europe. Lost the former soviet bloc states to Russia & lost its trusted leadership position in NATO & lost trust among our allies. Trump is not capable of maintaining American leadership & exceptionalism. He’s just a grifter looking only to profit from the position.

No wars started under Trump. This post is next level stupid, even for you.

Trump is a mirage… a stooge. If Putin was concerned with him, he’d take the peace deal being offered, claim victory & rebuild. Instead, he knows the next administration will likely be less accommodating than this one, and will make major plays while his Putin friendly puppet is in place. The Republican Congress in 2022, at Trump’s direction, started withholding funds & delegitimizing Zelensky , which thwarted Ukrainian momentum & greatly aided Putin. Since Trump took officer, we’ve abandoned Ukraine, elevated Putin, alienated our European allies, and helpec shift “negotiations” greatly into Russian favor. Why wouldn’t Putin keep going?

(06-05-2025 09:37 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Trump is a mirage… a stooge. If Putin was concerned with him, he’d take the peace deal being offered, claim victory & rebuild. Instead, he knows the next administration will likely be less accommodating than this one, and will make major plays while his Putin friendly puppet is in place. The Republican Congress in 2022, at Trump’s direction, started withholding funds & delegitimizing Zelensky , which thwarted Ukrainian momentum & greatly aided Putin. Since Trump took officer, we’ve abandoned Ukraine, elevated Putin, alienated our European allies, and helpec shift “negotiations” greatly into Russian favor. Why wouldn’t Putin keep going?

You are hilarious. Please continue.

(06-05-2025 09:23 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 09:17 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 08:40 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 08:07 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 08:02 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The last thing Putin wants is a fully NATO commitment in Ukraine & he’s banking on Trump’s TACO diplomacy to serve as the delay he needs to buy the time he needs to lay claim to as much land as he can steal. Ukraine knows Trump only wants a deal & doesn’t care what he barters away as long as he can politically claim victory at home; so they will keep attacking inside Russia and lean on the EU & Great Britain for support.

The only way this comes to an end is for the US & NATO to fully back Ukrainian efforts… minus troop commitments….
Russia has to start experiencing more of these significant losses.

Not happening.

The only way this ends is for both sides to stop their retarded unreasonable ceasefire demands.

Russia gets Crimea and part of the Donbas. Ukraine gets to do whatever it wants with their sovereignty intact.

Thats the list.

Ukraine knows this doesn’t end with Crimea & Donbas, so they will not quit. Putin knows his best chance to advance in Ukraine & Europe is with Trump as President, so he won’t quit. Trump had better grow a set and start supporting the Ukrainians or his legacy will be as the President who lost Europe. Lost the former soviet bloc states to Russia & lost its trusted leadership position in NATO & lost trust among our allies. Trump is not capable of maintaining American leadership & exceptionalism. He’s just a grifter looking only to profit from the position.

This is the biggest load of crap I've seen you post. I've seen you post loads of crap over the years, but this takes the cake.

I don't know why Ukraine and Russia make people crazy. But it does.

It is Trump that makes Menstra crazy. Change the POTUS and he’s just fine with everything that has happened. As for me, I’m not crazy at all. Just something to discuss. And some of us here seem to have a playbook for their side, right or left, that they will not deviate from. Personally I do not care who is on my side and who isn’t. I have my own views.

And then there are those here who add nothing to the discussion. Just drivel that seems to make them happy. That’s fine too. They may actually be a little off themselves. Being a little looney is not just a leftist thing.

(06-05-2025 09:41 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 09:37 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Trump is a mirage… a stooge. If Putin was concerned with him, he’d take the peace deal being offered, claim victory & rebuild. Instead, he knows the next administration will likely be less accommodating than this one, and will make major plays while his Putin friendly puppet is in place. The Republican Congress in 2022, at Trump’s direction, started withholding funds & delegitimizing Zelensky , which thwarted Ukrainian momentum & greatly aided Putin. Since Trump took officer, we’ve abandoned Ukraine, elevated Putin, alienated our European allies, and helpec shift “negotiations” greatly into Russian favor. Why wouldn’t Putin keep going?

You are hilarious. Please continue.

You know he is right in many respects even if he’s a loon. Trump did offer basically everything to Putin and Putin turned it down. It was such a ridiculous deal the Ukrainians would never have accepted it but he nevertheless did do it. And the sanctions he threatened aren’t even spoken of anymore.
I don’t know what’s in Trump’s mind but it does look like the kid glove treatment with Putin. Maybe Putin played Trump. Maybe Putin keeps fueling up ICBMs and Trump takes the threat seriously. Who knows?

(06-05-2025 08:37 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 08:23 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-04-2025 06:01 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-04-2025 05:59 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(06-04-2025 05:57 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Dont poke the bear

Why is that so hard to understand?

What Russia may do is hit critical sites like electricity and fuel

The little green turd is willing to destroy his whole country and live in a big estate with the globohomos.

We need out all the way

You are right for once. He will hit civilian targets because that’s what he does. Maybe he will kill a few more little girls that you don’t care about. The mighty bear, killing women and children because he’s throwing a temper tantrum.

Trump is sitting on his hands. Who knows why. He knows more than any of us here of course so I hope it’s for good reasons.

You wanted more war.

You are officially now a liar. Why go that route?

(06-05-2025 09:52 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Trump did offer basically everything to Putin and Putin turned it down.

True.

Trump offered “basically everything”. But he didn’t offer everything. Because to Putin, everything includes Ukraine. And Ukraine is not Trump’s to offer.

Quote:I don’t know what’s in Trump’s mind but it does look like the kid glove treatment with Putin.

Nor do I. But above all else I believe Trump just wants the war to be over. He knows that the war continues because of Putin, therefore he made his best offer to Putin. Putin rejected it.

Now we will see how Trump (and Ukraine, Germany/EU, and others) will react to that.

(06-05-2025 10:55 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 09:52 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Trump did offer basically everything to Putin and Putin turned it down.

True.

Trump offered “basically everything”. But he didn’t offer everything. Because to Putin, everything includes Ukraine. And Ukraine is not Trump’s to offer.

Quote:I don’t know what’s in Trump’s mind but it does look like the kid glove treatment with Putin.

Nor do I. But above all else I believe Trump just wants the war to be over. He knows that the war continues because of Putin, therefore he made his best offer to Putin. Putin rejected it.

Now we will see how Trump (and Ukraine, Germany/EU, and others) will react to that.

I agree. Sensible post. An oddity in these Ukrainian threads.

(06-05-2025 09:41 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 09:37 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Trump is a mirage… a stooge. If Putin was concerned with him, he’d take the peace deal being offered, claim victory & rebuild. Instead, he knows the next administration will likely be less accommodating than this one, and will make major plays while his Putin friendly puppet is in place. The Republican Congress in 2022, at Trump’s direction, started withholding funds & delegitimizing Zelensky , which thwarted Ukrainian momentum & greatly aided Putin. Since Trump took officer, we’ve abandoned Ukraine, elevated Putin, alienated our European allies, and helpec shift “negotiations” greatly into Russian favor. Why wouldn’t Putin keep going?

You are hilarious. Please continue.

Not a problem…

(06-05-2025 10:55 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 09:52 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Trump did offer basically everything to Putin and Putin turned it down.

True.

Trump offered “basically everything”. But he didn’t offer everything. Because to Putin, everything includes Ukraine. And Ukraine is not Trump’s to offer.

Quote:I don’t know what’s in Trump’s mind but it does look like the kid glove treatment with Putin.

Nor do I. But above all else I believe Trump just wants the war to be over. He knows that the war continues because of Putin, therefore he made his best offer to Putin. Putin rejected it.

Now we will see how Trump (and Ukraine, Germany/EU, and others) will react to that.

Germany is full on wanting the war to continue just as predicted. Trump was just interviewed with the german worm president.

The EU/globohomos want Ukraine and we funded them taking it

Utter Lunacy

(06-05-2025 09:44 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Personally I do not care who is on my side and who isn’t. I have my own views.

Now we're talking

(06-05-2025 11:01 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 09:41 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 09:37 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Trump is a mirage… a stooge. If Putin was concerned with him, he’d take the peace deal being offered, claim victory & rebuild. Instead, he knows the next administration will likely be less accommodating than this one, and will make major plays while his Putin friendly puppet is in place. The Republican Congress in 2022, at Trump’s direction, started withholding funds & delegitimizing Zelensky , which thwarted Ukrainian momentum & greatly aided Putin. Since Trump took officer, we’ve abandoned Ukraine, elevated Putin, alienated our European allies, and helpec shift “negotiations” greatly into Russian favor. Why wouldn’t Putin keep going?

You are hilarious. Please continue.

Not a problem…

I like chicken tacos. I like steak best though. Think I’ll go down to the local taco shop for lunch.

(06-05-2025 11:41 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 10:55 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 09:52 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Trump did offer basically everything to Putin and Putin turned it down.

True.

Trump offered “basically everything”. But he didn’t offer everything. Because to Putin, everything includes Ukraine. And Ukraine is not Trump’s to offer.

Quote:I don’t know what’s in Trump’s mind but it does look like the kid glove treatment with Putin.

Nor do I. But above all else I believe Trump just wants the war to be over. He knows that the war continues because of Putin, therefore he made his best offer to Putin. Putin rejected it.

Now we will see how Trump (and Ukraine, Germany/EU, and others) will react to that.

Germany is full on wanting the war to continue just as predicted. Trump was just interviewed with the german worm president.

The EU/globohomos want Ukraine and we funded them taking it

Utter Lunacy

Are you saying Russia has lost? How is Germany going to “take it”? Besides we have a mineral deal with the Ukrainians so Germany is on the outside looking in, right?

(06-05-2025 11:58 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 09:44 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Personally I do not care who is on my side and who isn’t. I have my own views.

Now we're talking

Oh come on now. You and Shere Karen are like penitent butter and jam.

(06-05-2025 12:05 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 11:58 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 09:44 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Personally I do not care who is on my side and who isn’t. I have my own views.

Now we're talking

Oh come on now. You and Shere Karen are like penitent butter and jam.

You, miss lindsey and da nang dick are leading the slavicucks.

Just a few more hundred billion should end ukraine forever

(06-05-2025 12:10 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 12:05 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 11:58 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(06-05-2025 09:44 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Personally I do not care who is on my side and who isn’t. I have my own views.

Now we're talking

Oh come on now. You and Shere Karen are like penitent butter and jam.

You, miss lindsey and da nang dick are leading the slavicucks.

Just a few more hundred billion should end ukraine forever

I have tried over and over to explain to you that I don’t give a rat chit who else seems to be on my side. I’ve also tried to explain to you that if anyone is caught grifting money from the US taxpayer they should be thrown in the dungeon.
Now will this stop the “wrong by association” you so eagerly post every chance you get?












Of course not.

I need to keep track of the screed du jure. Shere is like a sky screaming retro virus.



In other news, Russian media released a pic of Putin at his desk and his monitor shows he's using Windows XP which hasn't been supported in 11 years.

Malware hack incoming! Bro is having a bad week.