For all the talk Trump does about increasing US exports.... he's sure doing his best to destroy our largest export industries.

There are about 1.1 million foreign students in the USA, the vast majority of whom pay full tuition, room, and board. And they live here full-time too.

Out-of-state full cost of attendance is over $40k even at the cheapest state universities. U of Alabama is $50-$55k, U of Michigan is $84k. Let's assume it's an average of $60k a year.

1.1 million * 60,000 = $66 billion

That makes higher education one of America's leading export industries. For comparison, the USA receives $22 billion from exporting movies and $14 billion from exporting corn.

So, you're against vetting? That's what they're trying to do, they want to keep ONLY the ones that won't bite the hand that lets them stay in the country. Is that bad?

(05-28-2025 09:46 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  I see zero issues with vetting people who come into our country, even as students.

You're an Islamic lunatic? Anti-semite? Socialist? Communist? No thanks.

That about covers it.

I favor a reboot of the program. Any college or university receiving American taxpayer dollars should be obligated to accommodate Americans with the highest priority. Foreigners for remaining slots should be carefully vetted to eliminate spys, anti-semites, haters of America , criminals, etc,

Of course, schools wishing to shun Americans and invite foreigners with dubious backgrounds are welcome to continue without American taxpayer dollars unless foreigners break the law.

(05-28-2025 10:57 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  So, you're against vetting? That's what they're trying to do, they want to keep ONLY the ones that won't bite the hand that lets them stay in the country. Is that bad?

Increased vetting is very different from a complete halt.

A public announcement of a complete halt is intended to change people's plans and get them to look elsewhere.

I get it; he's trying to hurt Harvard and the other elite institutions. And they deserve to be hurt for their massive civil rights violations against Jewish students, their institutional racism against Asian-Americans and white Americans, their harassment of conservative speakers, and their loyalty oaths that are designed to weed out conservative thinkers.

But there are plenty of ways to hurt those institutions without trying to destroy the export capacity of one of America's largest export industries.

(05-28-2025 12:23 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(05-28-2025 10:57 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  So, you're against vetting? That's what they're trying to do, they want to keep ONLY the ones that won't bite the hand that lets them stay in the country. Is that bad?

Increased vetting is very different from a complete halt.

A public announcement of a complete halt is intended to change people's plans and get them to look elsewhere.

I get it; he's trying to hurt Harvard and the other elite institutions. And they deserve to be hurt for their massive civil rights violations against Jewish students, their institutional racism against Asian-Americans and white Americans, their harassment of conservative speakers, and their loyalty oaths that are designed to weed out conservative thinkers.

But there are plenty of ways to hurt those institutions without trying to destroy the export capacity of one of America's largest export industries.

Actually Rubio sent a memo to US Embassies around the world to stop taking Visa applications until a vetting process could be improved. Specifically the vetting process will now include social media reviews of potential foreign students.

Unfortunately it’s not a halt. It’s a pause until we can implement a system that we increase the likelihood we don’t import young people who hate the United States, its citizens and customs.

Yes. Temporary halt. Not permanent. Dems are so dramatic.

Anybody with a brain could have figured that out if they simply read the second sentence in the tweet.

(05-28-2025 10:31 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  For all the talk Trump does about increasing US exports.... he's sure doing his best to destroy our largest export industries.

There are about 1.1 million foreign students in the USA, the vast majority of whom pay full tuition, room, and board. And they live here full-time too.

Out-of-state full cost of attendance is over $40k even at the cheapest state universities. U of Alabama is $50-$55k, U of Michigan is $84k. Let's assume it's an average of $60k a year.

1.1 million * 60,000 = $66 billion

That makes higher education one of America's leading export industries. For comparison, the USA receives $22 billion from exporting movies and $14 billion from exporting corn.

I think we'll survive.

Especially since that money is going to commie college admins.

One of reasons for the pause, I think, is radical judges failing to expel bad actors post haste. Therefore, it is necessary to prevent malignant foreigners from entering out country before they can cause trouble.

(05-28-2025 09:46 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  I see zero issues with vetting people who come into our country, even as students.

You're an Islamic lunatic? Anti-semite? Socialist? Communist? No thanks.

Yep, I don't see how this isn't being done already. Can't see how this is even questionable or controversial. You wanna come play at our house, we have the right to know who the efff you are.

(05-28-2025 07:54 AM)VA49er Wrote:  This is a good thing for domestic students, right? Colleges love international students because, for the most part, they pay full tuition/room/board. Basically, international students are cash cows.

Pretty much. When I was in college our D2 All-American got zero money from the athletic department because Portugal paid the whole thing. Might be the only time an All-American was technically a walk on. Also, had another kid on the team who Australia was paying for but he wasn't that good.

Frick em

(05-28-2025 07:43 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  How much could we curb stolen technology by banning Chinese tech students?

...don't forget Iranian nuclear engineering "studentses" to boot...(that's a layup)...

(05-28-2025 05:49 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

Good now Americans can get athletic scholarships to tennis and soccer

(05-28-2025 07:54 AM)VA49er Wrote:  This is a good thing for domestic students, right? Colleges love international students because, for the most part, they pay full tuition/room/board. Basically, international students are cash cows.

Not foreign athletes

Muh injunctions to protect the constitutional rights of prospective foreign students!!!

I say put a 5-year moratorium on ALL student visas. American colleges for American students teaching American values, what a novel concept.

Aaaaaand they found a judge to give them an injunction.

(05-29-2025 11:10 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Aaaaaand they found a judge to give them an injunction.

Of course, they did.

"How dare the President use his Constutitional Authority to determine who should and shouldn't be allowed in the country! ORANGE MAN BAD! REEEEE! "

Predictable.