(04-23-2025 10:44 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-23-2025 10:11 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-23-2025 09:52 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(04-23-2025 08:30 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Ex-Dem Rep Harold Ford said on The Five today that illegal aliens should not have the same due process rights as American citizens, and SCOTUS needs to define exactly what it should be. The sooner the better.

That means the argument that "all persons" deserve due process is not a settled matter, even among some politicians on the Dem side.

And I remind again where I stepped into this debate, by posting Miller's position, which seems of some merit to me, b/c I recall a lot of complaints from the right then.

Nobody has the 100% high ground here.

You are highly confused between the concept of 'all people' and the amount of due process afforded to different classes within 'people'.

The issue isnt 'some get more than others' -- that is a given. Has been for literally centuries. No one is debating that.

The issue is 'some' vs 'none', champ.

Leave it to the idiot who parrots Miller about J6 never received due process, and doesnt have the level of thought process to even name *what* due process (if any) the J6ers were denied, let alone cannot name any instance of the same Miller squawk. Good fing grief.

But since it makes the applesauce minds feel all warm and comfy to say 'J6ers werent afforded due process' as the retarded level comeback to this, let the applesaucers keep repeating that blindly. Lolz.

I'm not highly confused about anything, Clarence. I'll just take Miller's knowledge on the subject over yours.

And as usual, you skip the points I make, insult me, and act like you know everything and nobody else does. Cool cool.

"This unique combination of traits makes a narcissistic sociopath especially difficult to deal with. For example, a narcissistic sociopath displays a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, often presenting as an exaggerated sense of self-importance. Typically, narcissistic sociopaths have an extreme need to be admired for their beauty, intelligence, success, or other positive traits.

Likewise, narcissistic sociopaths believe they are unique in many ways and that others should admire them for their specialness. Because they think they are special, they also believe that only other special people can truly understand them."

Cool cool:

I do wonder if Tanq does speed. He is a bastion of twisted perverted legalese. I am positive most on here just TL;DR when he goes on his long winded diatribes.

Please enlighten us Tanq with how you would remove millions if illegals without spending more than a plane ticket out of here.

May want to have some before you tackle this question

good golly ... I do love the wake-up, piss piss, puff puff, then read about the pillow fights...

honestly, it's testosteronal soap opera...

you guys are better ... in earnest, it's impressive...

Speaking of an "innocent Maryland man," Garcia, when stopped in Tennessee with 8 passengers and no luggage, was driving a car owned by a confessed human smuggler.

So Garcia is a court adjudicated (twice) MS-13 gang member, a (twice) wife beater, and is involved with human smuggling. And had a hold placed on his deportation by a judge who feared for Garcia's life. And yet that gang in El Salvador no longer exists.

And still, people are hollering due process. Cool cool.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/deporte...n-smuggler

(04-24-2025 07:02 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Speaking of an "innocent Maryland man," Garcia, when stopped in Tennessee with 8 passengers and no luggage, was driving a car owned by a convicted human smuggler.

So Garcia is a court adjudicated (twice) MS-13 gang member, a (twice) wife beater, and is involved with human smuggling.

And yet people are hollering due process. Cool cool.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/deporte...n-smuggler

They don't care, AAA. They...just don't.

(04-24-2025 07:02 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Speaking of an "innocent Maryland man," Garcia, when stopped in Tennessee with 8 passengers and no luggage, was driving a car owned by a convicted human smuggler.

So Garcia is a court adjudicated (twice) MS-13 gang member, a (twice) wife beater, and is involved with human smuggling. And had a hold placed on his deportation by a judge who feared for Garcia's life. And yet that gang in El Salvador no longer exists.

And still, people are hollering due process. Cool cool.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/deporte...n-smuggler

Everyone is entitled to due process. That’s why it is enshrined in the constitution. The fact that you guys can’t seem to differentiate between defending a persons right to due process vs personally supporting their actions is evidence of your intellectual deficiency.

(04-24-2025 07:19 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:02 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Speaking of an "innocent Maryland man," Garcia, when stopped in Tennessee with 8 passengers and no luggage, was driving a car owned by a convicted human smuggler.

So Garcia is a court adjudicated (twice) MS-13 gang member, a (twice) wife beater, and is involved with human smuggling. And had a hold placed on his deportation by a judge who feared for Garcia's life. And yet that gang in El Salvador no longer exists.

And still, people are hollering due process. Cool cool.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/deporte...n-smuggler

Everyone is entitled to due process. That’s why it is enshrined in the constitution. The fact that you guys can’t seem to differentiate between defending a persons right to due process vs personally supporting their actions is evidence of your intellectual deficiency.

Except the "Maryland dad" had due process (twice, even). And it was determined he was an MS-13 gang member both times.

Pick better "heroes" for which to fall on your sword.

(04-24-2025 07:19 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:02 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Speaking of an "innocent Maryland man," Garcia, when stopped in Tennessee with 8 passengers and no luggage, was driving a car owned by a convicted human smuggler.

So Garcia is a court adjudicated (twice) MS-13 gang member, a (twice) wife beater, and is involved with human smuggling. And had a hold placed on his deportation by a judge who feared for Garcia's life. And yet that gang in El Salvador no longer exists.

And still, people are hollering due process. Cool cool.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/deporte...n-smuggler

Everyone is entitled to due process. That’s why it is enshrined in the constitution. The fact that you guys can’t seem to differentiate between defending a persons right to due process vs personally supporting their actions is evidence of your intellectual deficiency.

and that's where youse always muck it ... if evidence is overwhelming, why burden the process...

to wit, planting evidence can be damning as well...

therefore, ewe really want to beat this drum ... I'll put ewe in weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee deliverance-landia inna heartbeat...

@FKEWES

(04-24-2025 07:19 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:02 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Speaking of an "innocent Maryland man," Garcia, when stopped in Tennessee with 8 passengers and no luggage, was driving a car owned by a convicted human smuggler.

So Garcia is a court adjudicated (twice) MS-13 gang member, a (twice) wife beater, and is involved with human smuggling. And had a hold placed on his deportation by a judge who feared for Garcia's life. And yet that gang in El Salvador no longer exists.

And still, people are hollering due process. Cool cool.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/deporte...n-smuggler

Everyone is entitled to due process. That’s why it is enshrined in the constitution. The fact that you guys can’t seem to differentiate between defending a persons right to due process vs personally supporting their actions is evidence of your intellectual deficiency.

How many times do you think he should get due process? Unlimited for the same situation? He had due process. He just had a hold placed on his deportation.

You do get points for using "intellectual deficiency" instead of "stupid."

(04-24-2025 07:31 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:19 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:02 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Speaking of an "innocent Maryland man," Garcia, when stopped in Tennessee with 8 passengers and no luggage, was driving a car owned by a convicted human smuggler.

So Garcia is a court adjudicated (twice) MS-13 gang member, a (twice) wife beater, and is involved with human smuggling. And had a hold placed on his deportation by a judge who feared for Garcia's life. And yet that gang in El Salvador no longer exists.

And still, people are hollering due process. Cool cool.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/deporte...n-smuggler

Everyone is entitled to due process. That’s why it is enshrined in the constitution. The fact that you guys can’t seem to differentiate between defending a persons right to due process vs personally supporting their actions is evidence of your intellectual deficiency.

How many times do you think he should get due process? Unlimited for the same situation? He had due process. He just had a hold placed on his deportation.

You do get points for using "intellectual deficiency" instead of "stupid."

common sense is a lost art upon too many...

(04-24-2025 07:19 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:02 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Speaking of an "innocent Maryland man," Garcia, when stopped in Tennessee with 8 passengers and no luggage, was driving a car owned by a convicted human smuggler.

So Garcia is a court adjudicated (twice) MS-13 gang member, a (twice) wife beater, and is involved with human smuggling. And had a hold placed on his deportation by a judge who feared for Garcia's life. And yet that gang in El Salvador no longer exists.

And still, people are hollering due process. Cool cool.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/deporte...n-smuggler

Everyone is entitled to due process. That’s why it is enshrined in the constitution. The fact that you guys can’t seem to differentiate between defending a persons right to due process vs personally supporting their actions is evidence of your intellectual deficiency.

If you are so worried about illegals being here uninvited please tell me how you want to pay for this?

I do like that you believe in entitlements as well.

Lat time I checked judges attorneys and court dockets are way overpriced

Plane ticket or bus ride seems most economical.

Governor Abbott showed us all how it’s done.

(04-24-2025 07:31 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:19 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:02 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Speaking of an "innocent Maryland man," Garcia, when stopped in Tennessee with 8 passengers and no luggage, was driving a car owned by a convicted human smuggler.

So Garcia is a court adjudicated (twice) MS-13 gang member, a (twice) wife beater, and is involved with human smuggling. And had a hold placed on his deportation by a judge who feared for Garcia's life. And yet that gang in El Salvador no longer exists.

And still, people are hollering due process. Cool cool.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/deporte...n-smuggler

Everyone is entitled to due process. That’s why it is enshrined in the constitution. The fact that you guys can’t seem to differentiate between defending a persons right to due process vs personally supporting their actions is evidence of your intellectual deficiency.

How many times do you think he should get due process? Unlimited for the same situation? He had due process. He just had a hold placed on his deportation.

You do get points for using "intellectual deficiency" instead of "stupid."

He had a court order preventing his removal to El Salvador. The government violated that court order.

He wasn’t deported, he was imprisoned in a concentration camp without due process.

There are procedures for deporting people. All we ask is that the government follow them. There are procedures for imprisoning people. All we ask is that the government follow them.

Pretty simple.

(04-24-2025 08:17 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:31 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:19 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:02 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Speaking of an "innocent Maryland man," Garcia, when stopped in Tennessee with 8 passengers and no luggage, was driving a car owned by a convicted human smuggler.

So Garcia is a court adjudicated (twice) MS-13 gang member, a (twice) wife beater, and is involved with human smuggling. And had a hold placed on his deportation by a judge who feared for Garcia's life. And yet that gang in El Salvador no longer exists.

And still, people are hollering due process. Cool cool.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/deporte...n-smuggler

Everyone is entitled to due process. That’s why it is enshrined in the constitution. The fact that you guys can’t seem to differentiate between defending a persons right to due process vs personally supporting their actions is evidence of your intellectual deficiency.

How many times do you think he should get due process? Unlimited for the same situation? He had due process. He just had a hold placed on his deportation.

You do get points for using "intellectual deficiency" instead of "stupid."

He had a court order preventing his removal to El Salvador. The government violated that court order.

He wasn’t deported, he was imprisoned in a concentration camp without due process.

There are procedures for deporting people. All we ask is that the government follow them. There are procedures for imprisoning people. All we ask is that the government follow them.

Pretty simple.

The US government didn't imprison him. El Salvador did. He was a fugitive of justice there. Go to an El Salvador message board and tell THEM he is required "due process". Don't consider it a "Deportation" but rather an "Extradition".

(04-24-2025 08:23 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 08:17 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:31 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:19 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:02 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Speaking of an "innocent Maryland man," Garcia, when stopped in Tennessee with 8 passengers and no luggage, was driving a car owned by a convicted human smuggler.

So Garcia is a court adjudicated (twice) MS-13 gang member, a (twice) wife beater, and is involved with human smuggling. And had a hold placed on his deportation by a judge who feared for Garcia's life. And yet that gang in El Salvador no longer exists.

And still, people are hollering due process. Cool cool.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/deporte...n-smuggler

Everyone is entitled to due process. That’s why it is enshrined in the constitution. The fact that you guys can’t seem to differentiate between defending a persons right to due process vs personally supporting their actions is evidence of your intellectual deficiency.

How many times do you think he should get due process? Unlimited for the same situation? He had due process. He just had a hold placed on his deportation.

You do get points for using "intellectual deficiency" instead of "stupid."

He had a court order preventing his removal to El Salvador. The government violated that court order.

He wasn’t deported, he was imprisoned in a concentration camp without due process.

There are procedures for deporting people. All we ask is that the government follow them. There are procedures for imprisoning people. All we ask is that the government follow them.

Pretty simple.

The US government didn't imprison him. El Salvador did. He was a fugitive of justice there. Go to an El Salvador message board and tell THEM he is required "due process". Don't consider it a "Deportation" but rather and "Extradition".

And extraditions also require due process, imagine that.

(04-24-2025 08:17 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:31 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:19 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:02 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Speaking of an "innocent Maryland man," Garcia, when stopped in Tennessee with 8 passengers and no luggage, was driving a car owned by a convicted human smuggler.

So Garcia is a court adjudicated (twice) MS-13 gang member, a (twice) wife beater, and is involved with human smuggling. And had a hold placed on his deportation by a judge who feared for Garcia's life. And yet that gang in El Salvador no longer exists.

And still, people are hollering due process. Cool cool.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/deporte...n-smuggler

Everyone is entitled to due process. That’s why it is enshrined in the constitution. The fact that you guys can’t seem to differentiate between defending a persons right to due process vs personally supporting their actions is evidence of your intellectual deficiency.

How many times do you think he should get due process? Unlimited for the same situation? He had due process. He just had a hold placed on his deportation.

You do get points for using "intellectual deficiency" instead of "stupid."

He had a court order preventing his removal to El Salvador. The government violated that court order.

He wasn’t deported, he was imprisoned in a concentration camp without due process.

There are procedures for deporting people. All we ask is that the government follow them. There are procedures for imprisoning people. All we ask is that the government follow them.

Pretty simple.

What a grotesquely stupid thing to say.

Might want to engage your brain before opening your mouth.

Go watch some footage and read about the Holocaust before you compare a prison to that horrible encampment.

You are embarrassing yourself

(04-24-2025 08:27 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 08:17 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:31 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:19 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 07:02 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Speaking of an "innocent Maryland man," Garcia, when stopped in Tennessee with 8 passengers and no luggage, was driving a car owned by a convicted human smuggler.

So Garcia is a court adjudicated (twice) MS-13 gang member, a (twice) wife beater, and is involved with human smuggling. And had a hold placed on his deportation by a judge who feared for Garcia's life. And yet that gang in El Salvador no longer exists.

And still, people are hollering due process. Cool cool.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/deporte...n-smuggler

Everyone is entitled to due process. That’s why it is enshrined in the constitution. The fact that you guys can’t seem to differentiate between defending a persons right to due process vs personally supporting their actions is evidence of your intellectual deficiency.

How many times do you think he should get due process? Unlimited for the same situation? He had due process. He just had a hold placed on his deportation.

You do get points for using "intellectual deficiency" instead of "stupid."

He had a court order preventing his removal to El Salvador. The government violated that court order.

He wasn’t deported, he was imprisoned in a concentration camp without due process.

There are procedures for deporting people. All we ask is that the government follow them. There are procedures for imprisoning people. All we ask is that the government follow them.

Pretty simple.

What a grotesquely stupid thing to say.

Might want to engage your brain before opening your mouth.

Go watch some footage and read about the Holocaust before you compare a prison to that horrible encampment.

You are embarrassing yourself

He's been saying it the whole time since this "scandal" began. I have up until recently been correcting him, but I stopped because I decided it would be better to let him look like a fool. You know, something about "pearls before swine" and all that.

"Due Process" for 25,000,000+ who ain't supposed to be here in the first place.

Imagine the burden on the court system.

I'm sure our resident LegalAI Copy/Paste'r will opine on it

What I have ascertained from the 54 pages of drivel here is that the Criminal Brutal Wife Beating Gang Member defenders would be perfectly fine and OK if this waste of Oxygen would have been sent to Cambodia. Kool, Kool.

1078 posts about one low life illegal alien who is a documented MS-13 gang member and a two-time (at least) wife beater, who got shipped out to El Salvador, his home country, without MORE DUE PROCESS after two courts ruled him MS-13, which is now a designated FTO.

Let's say El Salvador ships him back to the US. Any of you righteous due process souls want to take a guess at what will happen next?

The hills you guys want to die on are pretty funny.

(04-24-2025 08:35 AM)TripleA Wrote:  1078 posts about one low life illegal alien who is a documented MS-13 gang member and a two-time (at least) wife beater, who got shipped out to El Salvador, his home country, without MORE DUE PROCESS after two courts ruled him MS-13, which is now a designated FTO.

Let's say El Salvador ships him back to the US. Any of you righteous due process souls want to take a guess at what will happen next?

The hills you guys want to die on are pretty funny.

A federal judge will grant a TRO faster than you can say Welcoome Back

(04-24-2025 08:37 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(04-24-2025 08:35 AM)TripleA Wrote:  1078 posts about one low life illegal alien who is a documented MS-13 gang member and a two-time (at least) wife beater, who got shipped out to El Salvador, his home country, without MORE DUE PROCESS after two courts ruled him MS-13, which is now a designated FTO.

Let's say El Salvador ships him back to the US. Any of you righteous due process souls want to take a guess at what will happen next?

The hills you guys want to die on are pretty funny.

A federal judge will grant a TRO faster than you can say Welcoome Back

Sadly, I think you're right.