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Quote:Russian President Vladimir Putin is reportedly ready for a truce with Ukraine after President Trump threatened to sanction Russia.

President Trump on Friday morning threatened Russia with “large scale” banking sanctions and tariffs until Vladimir Putin reached a ceasefire and final settlement on peace with Ukraine.

“Based on the fact that Russia is absolutely “pounding” Ukraine on the battlefield right now, I am strongly considering large scale Banking Sanctions, Sanctions, and Tariffs on Russia until a Cease Fire and FINAL SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT ON PEACE IS REACHED. To Russia and Ukraine, get to the table right now, before it is too late. Thank you!!!” Trump said on Truth Social on Friday.

Vladimir Putin is willing to open the conversation toward a final peace settlement with Ukraine, according to Bloomberg.

Bloomberg News reported:

Russia is willing to discuss a temporary truce in Ukraine provided there is progress toward a final peace settlement, according to people familiar with the matter in Moscow.

In the first signal of a positive response from President Vladimir Putin to US counterpart Donald Trump’s call for a ceasefire, the offer was conveyed at last month’s talks in Saudi Arabia between top Russian and American officials, the people said, asking not to be identified discussing internal policy.


President Trump has absolutely had it with the never ending war between Russia and Ukraine (thanks to Joe Biden).

Earlier this week, President Trump paused all military aid to Ukraine after Zelensky suggested the war with Russia would last a long time.

The pause will halt all military aid that is currently in transit to Ukraine.

On Monday Trump responded to Zelensky’s claim the end of war with Russia is ‘very, very far away.’

“This is the worst statement that could have been made by Zelenskyy, and America will not put up with it for much longer! It is what I was saying, this guy doesn’t want there to be Peace as long as he has America’s backing and, Europe, in the meeting they had with Zelenskyy, stated flatly that they cannot do the job without the U.S. – Probably not a great statement to have been made in terms of a show of strength against Russia. What are they thinking?” Trump said on Truth Social.

Later Monday it was reported that a completely fed up Trump has paused all military aid – including weapons in transit – to Ukraine.

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Yesterday, Trump had an interesting comment.

"I think what’s going to happen is Ukraine wants to make a deal because I don’t think they have a choice," he said. "I also think that Russia wants to make a deal because in a certain different way — a different way that only I know, only I know — they have no choice," Trump cryptically added.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-crypti...47714.html


There is talk of sanctions and tariffs today---but I doubt Russia would give a flying fig about that. We only do a few billion in business both ways in Russia these days after all the past sanctions. Trump could shut off trade completely and it doesnt appear that would amount to much for either nation. If the Russians are coming to the negotiating table--I cant image a Trump threat of tariffs and sanctions is likely to be the motivator. If they are coming---its more likely for whatever cryptic reason Trump mentioned yesterday.
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Hold Onto Your Hats: Trump Team and Zelensky Both Just Confirmed Big Move to Try and End Ukraine War


Quote:Senior U.S. and Ukrainian officials are planning to meet next week to discuss the first steps of a deal to end the war.

Both President Trump's team and President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine confirmed the meeting, which is expected to take place in Saudi Arabia.

“Ukrainian and American teams have resumed work, and we hope that next week we will have a meaningful meeting,” Mr. Zelensky said in a statement on Thursday.

Mr. Zelensky said that Ukraine would send a delegation to meet with “military representatives of countries that are ready to make greater efforts to reliably guarantee security within the framework of ending this war.”


President Trump's special envoy, Steve Witkoff, also confirmed the meeting, saying the purpose was "to get down a framework for a peace agreement and an initial cease-fire as well.”

Witkoff indicated that Zelensky had bent the knee trying to repair the damage.

“President Zelensky has demonstrated that he’s intent on that good-faith path back. He’s apologized. He’s said he’s grateful. He said he wants to work toward peace.” Mr. Witkoff added that he believed Mr. Zelensky was willing to sign a minerals deal to create a U.S.-controlled fund that would receive revenue from Ukraine’s natural resources.

Trump himself also weighed in to reporters at the White House.

He said U.S. negotiators had “made a lot of progress with Ukraine and a lot of progress with Russia over the last couple of days" and showed optimism about a peace agreement.

He said Ukraine "wants to make a deal because I don’t think they have a choice." But he also said in another way, Russia had no choice either.

Now, that sounds like big movement, especially compared to where they were last week, and, as I said, hold onto your hats and maybe cross your fingers too, but at this point, it's sounding like it's all moving in the right direction.

REPORT: Trump Advisers in Talks With Ukrainian Opposition to Remove President Zelensky


Quote:According to reports, four senior members of the Trump administration met with a few Ukrainian opposition leaders to discuss plans to force President Volodymyr Zelensky from office.

The senior Trump allies held talks with Ukrainian opposition leader Yulia Tymoshenko, a remorselessly ambitious former prime minister, and senior members of the party of Petro Poroshenko, Zelenskyy’s immediate predecessor as president, according to three Ukrainian parliamentarians and a U.S. Republican foreign policy expert.

The discussions centered on whether Ukraine could hold quick presidential elections. These are being delayed in line with the country’s constitution because Ukraine remains under martial law. Critics of holding elections say they could be chaotic and play into Russia’s hands, with so many potential voters serving on the front lines or living abroad as refugees.


While no names are named, recent statements suggest that Trump's Ukraine point man, retired General Keith Kellogg, was one of the participants. As a four-man team led by Secretary of State Marco Rubio met with the Russians in Riyadh in February, the preponderance of the evidence would indicate the same four, making it a solid bet that National Security Advisor Mike Waltz and special envoy Steve Witkoff were involved.

There is no reason to doubt this report as Trump has overtly demonstrated that he is willing to end the war on Russia's terms to reset, to use the Obama era expression, US-Russia relations; see Russia Offers to Help Trump Negotiate With Iran on Nuclear Weapons and Regional Security – RedState. Trump has said that Zelensky "won't be around very long" if a peace deal is not made. The demand that Zelensky rubber-stamp a peace plan for the sake of a peace plan or face removal is standard fare within the Administration and its allies.

Either Zelenskyy “needs to come to his senses and come back to the table in gratitude or someone else needs to lead the country to do that,” House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., told NBC News’ “Meet the Press” on Sunday. Two days after the Ukrainian president was publicly berated by President Donald Trump and Vice President JD Vance, and asked to leave the White House without signing an important deal, Johnson said it was “up to the Ukrainians to figure that out.”

National security adviser Mike Waltz said Washington needed “a leader that can deal with us, eventually deal with the Russians, and end this war.” He told CNN that “if it becomes apparent that President Zelenskyy’s either personal motivations or political motivations are divergent from ending the fighting in this country, then I think we have a real issue.”

Meanwhile Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said he wasn’t sure if the U.S. “can ever do business with Zelenskyy again.” He said that Ukraine’s leader “either needs to resign and send somebody over that we can do business with, or he needs to change.”


Even though Trump has called Zelensky a dictator and demanded elections without seeming to care that Russia occupies 20% of Ukraine and those people would be unable to vote, Tulsi Gabbard has even claimed that Zelensky canceled elections when Ukraine's constitution forbids elections during wartime. The demand also ignores that, unlike Trump's fatuous claim that Zelensky has a 4% approval rating, Zelensky is the most popular national politician in Ukraine (63%, up seven points since May), and half the country supports the continuation of the war. The most likely replacement for Zelensky would be Ukraine's ambassador in London, retired General Valery Zaluzhny, who is 20 points less popular than the man Trump wants replaced.



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Wait a minute that doesn't sound like "Russian Puppetry" from the MOB?



Again, for the Elvii (or is it Elvis's) out there, peace is the goal here not to kiss anyone's arse - Dumbfuks.
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(03-07-2025 12:59 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  Hold Onto Your Hats: Trump Team and Zelensky Both Just Confirmed Big Move to Try and End Ukraine War


Quote:Senior U.S. and Ukrainian officials are planning to meet next week to discuss the first steps of a deal to end the war.

Both President Trump's team and President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine confirmed the meeting, which is expected to take place in Saudi Arabia.

“Ukrainian and American teams have resumed work, and we hope that next week we will have a meaningful meeting,” Mr. Zelensky said in a statement on Thursday.

Mr. Zelensky said that Ukraine would send a delegation to meet with “military representatives of countries that are ready to make greater efforts to reliably guarantee security within the framework of ending this war.”


President Trump's special envoy, Steve Witkoff, also confirmed the meeting, saying the purpose was "to get down a framework for a peace agreement and an initial cease-fire as well.”

Witkoff indicated that Zelensky had bent the knee trying to repair the damage.

“President Zelensky has demonstrated that he’s intent on that good-faith path back. He’s apologized. He’s said he’s grateful. He said he wants to work toward peace.” Mr. Witkoff added that he believed Mr. Zelensky was willing to sign a minerals deal to create a U.S.-controlled fund that would receive revenue from Ukraine’s natural resources.

Trump himself also weighed in to reporters at the White House.

He said U.S. negotiators had “made a lot of progress with Ukraine and a lot of progress with Russia over the last couple of days" and showed optimism about a peace agreement.

He said Ukraine "wants to make a deal because I don’t think they have a choice." But he also said in another way, Russia had no choice either.

Now, that sounds like big movement, especially compared to where they were last week, and, as I said, hold onto your hats and maybe cross your fingers too, but at this point, it's sounding like it's all moving in the right direction.

REPORT: Trump Advisers in Talks With Ukrainian Opposition to Remove President Zelensky


Quote:According to reports, four senior members of the Trump administration met with a few Ukrainian opposition leaders to discuss plans to force President Volodymyr Zelensky from office.

The senior Trump allies held talks with Ukrainian opposition leader Yulia Tymoshenko, a remorselessly ambitious former prime minister, and senior members of the party of Petro Poroshenko, Zelenskyy’s immediate predecessor as president, according to three Ukrainian parliamentarians and a U.S. Republican foreign policy expert.

The discussions centered on whether Ukraine could hold quick presidential elections. These are being delayed in line with the country’s constitution because Ukraine remains under martial law. Critics of holding elections say they could be chaotic and play into Russia’s hands, with so many potential voters serving on the front lines or living abroad as refugees.


While no names are named, recent statements suggest that Trump's Ukraine point man, retired General Keith Kellogg, was one of the participants. As a four-man team led by Secretary of State Marco Rubio met with the Russians in Riyadh in February, the preponderance of the evidence would indicate the same four, making it a solid bet that National Security Advisor Mike Waltz and special envoy Steve Witkoff were involved.

There is no reason to doubt this report as Trump has overtly demonstrated that he is willing to end the war on Russia's terms to reset, to use the Obama era expression, US-Russia relations; see Russia Offers to Help Trump Negotiate With Iran on Nuclear Weapons and Regional Security – RedState. Trump has said that Zelensky "won't be around very long" if a peace deal is not made. The demand that Zelensky rubber-stamp a peace plan for the sake of a peace plan or face removal is standard fare within the Administration and its allies.

Either Zelenskyy “needs to come to his senses and come back to the table in gratitude or someone else needs to lead the country to do that,” House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., told NBC News’ “Meet the Press” on Sunday. Two days after the Ukrainian president was publicly berated by President Donald Trump and Vice President JD Vance, and asked to leave the White House without signing an important deal, Johnson said it was “up to the Ukrainians to figure that out.”

National security adviser Mike Waltz said Washington needed “a leader that can deal with us, eventually deal with the Russians, and end this war.” He told CNN that “if it becomes apparent that President Zelenskyy’s either personal motivations or political motivations are divergent from ending the fighting in this country, then I think we have a real issue.”

Meanwhile Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said he wasn’t sure if the U.S. “can ever do business with Zelenskyy again.” He said that Ukraine’s leader “either needs to resign and send somebody over that we can do business with, or he needs to change.”


Even though Trump has called Zelensky a dictator and demanded elections without seeming to care that Russia occupies 20% of Ukraine and those people would be unable to vote, Tulsi Gabbard has even claimed that Zelensky canceled elections when Ukraine's constitution forbids elections during wartime. The demand also ignores that, unlike Trump's fatuous claim that Zelensky has a 4% approval rating, Zelensky is the most popular national politician in Ukraine (63%, up seven points since May), and half the country supports the continuation of the war. The most likely replacement for Zelensky would be Ukraine's ambassador in London, retired General Valery Zaluzhny, who is 20 points less popular than the man Trump wants replaced.





The opposition leader is pro Russian backed person who works for Putin. They tried to overthrow the elected leaders of Ukraine before Zelensky won the election. I would not make a deal with that terrorist group in Ukraine that is backed by Putin.
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(03-07-2025 01:20 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  Wait a minute that doesn't sound like "Russian Puppetry" from the MOB?



Again, for the Elvii (or is it Elvis's) out there, peace is the goal here not to kiss anyone's arse - Dumbfuks.


The problem is that neither Putin nor the opposition leader can be trusted in Ukraine. We want Ukraine to be free and whole country, but having someone who is backed by Putin to lead is not the answer. The people of Ukraine would fall under a dictatorship that would be a puppet government of Putin. Like some countries in the Middle East that are puppet government of Iran. Russia is part of the AXIS of evil who supports Iran.
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(03-07-2025 03:38 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(03-07-2025 01:20 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  Wait a minute that doesn't sound like "Russian Puppetry" from the MOB?



Again, for the Elvii (or is it Elvis's) out there, peace is the goal here not to kiss anyone's arse - Dumbfuks.


The problem is that neither Putin nor the opposition leader can be trusted in Ukraine. We want Ukraine to be free and whole country, but having someone who is backed by Putin to lead is not the answer. The people of Ukraine would fall under a dictatorship that would be a puppet government of Putin. Like some countries in the Middle East that are puppet government of Iran. Russia is part of the AXIS of evil who supports Iran.

Slavicucks agree with you
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(03-07-2025 03:38 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(03-07-2025 01:20 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  Wait a minute that doesn't sound like "Russian Puppetry" from the MOB?



Again, for the Elvii (or is it Elvis's) out there, peace is the goal here not to kiss anyone's arse - Dumbfuks.


The problem is that neither Putin nor the opposition leader can be trusted in Ukraine. We want Ukraine to be free and whole country, but having someone who is backed by Putin to lead is not the answer. The people of Ukraine would fall under a dictatorship that would be a puppet government of Putin. Like some countries in the Middle East that are puppet government of Iran. Russia is part of the AXIS of evil who supports Iran.

Ukraine's biggest problem is that the United States has a presidential election every 4 years and lately whenever a Democrat is elected to office, they lose another portion of their country to Russia.
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(03-07-2025 04:25 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  
(03-07-2025 03:38 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(03-07-2025 01:20 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  Wait a minute that doesn't sound like "Russian Puppetry" from the MOB?



Again, for the Elvii (or is it Elvis's) out there, peace is the goal here not to kiss anyone's arse - Dumbfuks.


The problem is that neither Putin nor the opposition leader can be trusted in Ukraine. We want Ukraine to be free and whole country, but having someone who is backed by Putin to lead is not the answer. The people of Ukraine would fall under a dictatorship that would be a puppet government of Putin. Like some countries in the Middle East that are puppet government of Iran. Russia is part of the AXIS of evil who supports Iran.

Ukraine's biggest problem is that the United States has a presidential election every 4 years and lately whenever a Democrat or pro-war neocon Republican is elected to office, they lose another portion of their country to Russia.

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(03-07-2025 12:53 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Yesterday, Trump had an interesting comment.

"I think what’s going to happen is Ukraine wants to make a deal because I don’t think they have a choice," he said. "I also think that Russia wants to make a deal because in a certain different way — a different way that only I know, only I know — they have no choice," Trump cryptically added.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-crypti...47714.html


There is talk of sanctions and tariffs today---but I doubt Russia would give a flying fig about that. We only do a few billion in business both ways in Russia these days after all the past sanctions. Trump could shut off trade completely and it doesnt appear that would amount to much for either nation. If the Russians are coming to the negotiating table--I cant image a Trump threat of tariffs and sanctions is likely to be the motivator. If they are coming---its more likely for whatever cryptic reason Trump mentioned yesterday.

The only way to motivate Russia is to let them know Ukraine will be given everything to defend itself but men. Biggest threat is longer range weapons that could wipe out Russian refineries all over the country as well as the Kerch Strait Bridge to Crimea.
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(03-07-2025 04:25 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  
(03-07-2025 03:38 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(03-07-2025 01:20 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  Wait a minute that doesn't sound like "Russian Puppetry" from the MOB?



Again, for the Elvii (or is it Elvis's) out there, peace is the goal here not to kiss anyone's arse - Dumbfuks.


The problem is that neither Putin nor the opposition leader can be trusted in Ukraine. We want Ukraine to be free and whole country, but having someone who is backed by Putin to lead is not the answer. The people of Ukraine would fall under a dictatorship that would be a puppet government of Putin. Like some countries in the Middle East that are puppet government of Iran. Russia is part of the AXIS of evil who supports Iran.

Ukraine's biggest problem is that the United States has a presidential election every 4 years and lately whenever a Democrat is elected to office, they lose another portion of their country to Russia.

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(03-07-2025 04:25 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  
(03-07-2025 03:38 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(03-07-2025 01:20 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  Wait a minute that doesn't sound like "Russian Puppetry" from the MOB?



Again, for the Elvii (or is it Elvis's) out there, peace is the goal here not to kiss anyone's arse - Dumbfuks.


The problem is that neither Putin nor the opposition leader can be trusted in Ukraine. We want Ukraine to be free and whole country, but having someone who is backed by Putin to lead is not the answer. The people of Ukraine would fall under a dictatorship that would be a puppet government of Putin. Like some countries in the Middle East that are puppet government of Iran. Russia is part of the AXIS of evil who supports Iran.

We wamt a puppet to launder money. The EU wants Ukraines reseources.

I dgaf about Ukraine if they do it on their dime.
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(03-07-2025 05:30 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(03-07-2025 12:53 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Yesterday, Trump had an interesting comment.

"I think what’s going to happen is Ukraine wants to make a deal because I don’t think they have a choice," he said. "I also think that Russia wants to make a deal because in a certain different way — a different way that only I know, only I know — they have no choice," Trump cryptically added.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-crypti...47714.html


There is talk of sanctions and tariffs today---but I doubt Russia would give a flying fig about that. We only do a few billion in business both ways in Russia these days after all the past sanctions. Trump could shut off trade completely and it doesnt appear that would amount to much for either nation. If the Russians are coming to the negotiating table--I cant image a Trump threat of tariffs and sanctions is likely to be the motivator. If they are coming---its more likely for whatever cryptic reason Trump mentioned yesterday.

The only way to motivate Russia is to let them know Ukraine will be given everything to defend itself but men. Biggest threat is longer range weapons that could wipe out Russian refineries all over the country as well as the Kerch Strait Bridge to Crimea.

The Ukrainians are actually attacking Russia's oil refineries, and the European countries are taken the frozen funds of Russia, and giving it to Ukraine for weapons. Norway is sending $1 billion Kronos to Ukraine for support. A lot of European countries including Baltic States are sending weapon, and they are getting troops ready for war against Russia and Putin. They are ignoring Trump since we are not the leaders of the world anymore. The Europeans are taken matters into their own hands to punish Trump militarily. Israel wiped out some of Russian's military in Syria as well. Canada is sending support as well. We might see a Putinless Russia in the near future. Even anti-Putin protest in Russia is growing larger, and Russia soldiers are surrendering to the Ukraines or run to other countries not wanting to fight for Putin. Putin is about ready to fall soon.
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(03-07-2025 05:30 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(03-07-2025 12:53 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Yesterday, Trump had an interesting comment.

"I think what’s going to happen is Ukraine wants to make a deal because I don’t think they have a choice," he said. "I also think that Russia wants to make a deal because in a certain different way — a different way that only I know, only I know — they have no choice," Trump cryptically added.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-crypti...47714.html


There is talk of sanctions and tariffs today---but I doubt Russia would give a flying fig about that. We only do a few billion in business both ways in Russia these days after all the past sanctions. Trump could shut off trade completely and it doesnt appear that would amount to much for either nation. If the Russians are coming to the negotiating table--I cant image a Trump threat of tariffs and sanctions is likely to be the motivator. If they are coming---its more likely for whatever cryptic reason Trump mentioned yesterday.

The only way to motivate Russia is to let them know Ukraine will be given everything to defend itself but men. Biggest threat is longer range weapons that could wipe out Russian refineries all over the country as well as the Kerch Strait Bridge to Crimea.
That wouldn't make Europe very happy.

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