(11-18-2021 05:29 PM)Buc76 Wrote:  66- your message on moving up or improving a program is tired, old and flawed. Every game you have posted about have been played in a rainstorm and a mid week game.

Somehow you think you know more than the Presidents, ADs, and BOT that have moved their programs to a higher level. I'm sure those schools are thankful you are not in charge of their programs.

Hey man, cool down. I’m for “moving up” if it’s REAL, sustainable, and cost effective. App State is the obvious modern era model. They certainly did it the right way — FIRST building an FCS powerhouse, a fan base to go along, and THEN moving up. They were far exceeding the FBS 15,000 fans requirement during their SoCon days with actual paying fans. So were Marshall and GA Southern. And so is James Madison now. The MAC schools and others in the lower five conferences seem to have to do some serious rigging to meet the attendance requirement. Too much of this thing called the FBS subdivision is pretentiousness at its best. Schools even lose money on those ridiculous bowl games in EMPTY stadiums. I would relish the day when ETSU would be invited to a regional conference made up of the eastern division of the Sun Belt no matter what subdivision name that would be. But, if we want to move to the Sun Belt now and consistently field football and basketball championship teams with a 25,000 fan base to go along — it will take some serious money for facilities and the programs, I’m all for it but don’t have the $100 million start up to donate - wish I did.