(04-01-2021 01:12 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-01-2021 12:15 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  

(04-01-2021 09:05 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-31-2021 11:00 PM)Jared7 Wrote:  ksl in Salt Lake City (unfortunately, I can't make the link work) published an article today suggesting that Utah team up with BYU and jointly make a proposal to the Big 12 about those 2 schools becoming the 11th and 12th members of the Big 12.

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If anything, it could just mean that someone in Utah is getting nervous about the ongoing money differential and the anticipated gargantuan difference in the near future.

I think this is the link you wanted. It is an interesting idea. The Big 12 knows 12 is a good number to be at, but there is nobody in the G5 worth adding. Utah and BYU just might be, if the Arizona schools aren't interested, and I think the Arizona schools are more culturally comfortable with the PAC.

https://kslsports.com/456413/pitch-utah-...byu-along/

It must be a slow news day for the guy at KSL. If I am at West Virginia, I am a no vote on Utah and BYU. I would want Cincinnati. WVU is 300 miles from Cincinnati, If I am at Iowa State, I would vote no on Utah and BYU and yes on Cincinnati. Ames, Iowa is 600 miles from Cincinnati and 1,100 miles from Salt Lake City. Kansas is 630 miles from Cincinnati and over a 1,000 miles from SLC. I think all three schools are more likely to recruit in Ohio than in Utah.

In 2018-2019, the Big 12 distributed $388 million to 10 schools, a total of $38.8 million. The Pac-12 that year distributed $387 million, an average of $32.2M per member university. The net revenue was the same, the Big 12 just had two less teams. Also, the Pac-12 reported revenues of $530 million. The Pac-12 Network reported revenue of $123 million and expenses of $90 million. If the next Pac-12 Commissioner can fix the Pac-12 Network issues, improve revenue and reduce overall expenses, they would distribute more to each school even before they negotiate their next TV deal.

The Pac-12 schools are all closer to Salt Lake City and Utah recruits all over the west, especially in California. By the way, the writer suggests that USC winning in football would help a lot. It sure would, but it would also help if Utah could win games on the Big Stage. Getting crushed by Oregon when they needed a win to clinch a conference title and a playoff berth was not helpful to the conference. Getting boat raced by Texas in the Alamo Bowl was not helpful. The Pac-12 has collected 19 financial units from this year's NCAA men's basketball tournament, worth $38.4 million over the next six years. Utah contributed nothing to this. The guy should write an article on how fortunate Utah is to be in the Pac-12.

Good points. But, I don't think Iowa State and WV are going to have a lot to say about who, if anyone, gets added. They are not exactly the Power Duo of the conference. Cincy is not joining the Big 12.

That said, I agree with a lot else that you say. The PAC is generating remarkable revenues given how badly botched the PACN has been, and given that they are at the tail-end of a 12 year media deal that was superseded by others almost as soon as the ink was dry.

For all of its problems, the PAC does seem to have a higher ceiling than the Big 12. And it no longer is saddled with Larry Scott.

The PAC ceiling is limited by viewership. When that picks up we will see their revenues rise a lot more. They will get a bump in the next contract, and moves they suggested this week to streamline the PACN and bring it down to 1 channel instead of multiple regionals will help as well.

I never understood why anybody touted Scott. They guy soaked the conference with high overhead for conference office expense and he had the highest paid salary of the P5 while the too most successful Delany and Slive were the lowest two paid. The only thing Scott succeeded at doing was being a much better grifter than even Swofford.