(01-08-2021 08:08 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(01-08-2021 05:43 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 08:36 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 12:18 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 12:00 PM)Eichorst Wrote:  And I don't mean to suggest that Memphis and the other AAC teams have been world-killers, just that they're obviously "good enough" to not get blown out, they play competitive, fun games that would likely get strong ratings. Nobody would be saying that the AAC cinderella didn't belong in an 8-team (or larger) playoff.

Well, IMO, the results of recent NY6 games involving G5 champs *do not* suggest that the G5 champ automatically belongs in an 8-team playoff. Remember, these games they were competitive in (but still lost) were against teams that finished 3rd or 4th in their conferences, they weren't losing to the champs.

So following that logic the Big 12 & Notre Dame don't belong in an 8 team playoff since they've never won a playoff game. Nor the Pac 12 who's only won once 6 years ago. Using your qualifiers only Alabama, Clemson, Ohio St, Georgia, Oregon & LSU qualify since they're the only ones who've won a playoff game so far. How thrilling.

That's not really my logic. There's a difference between losing playoff games, where you played an actual playoff-level team, and losing to teams that were not playoff level. The G5 champ has been losing to 3rd and 4th place finishers in P5 conferences.

Also, nobody is saying that Oklahoma and Notre Dame, or any other playoff losers, should get an *autobid* to the current playoffs. The 5/1/2 model would give an autobid to the top G5 team. That's a much higher bar to meet, so the standards for proof that it is needed should be higher.

Recently, the G5 have not come anywhere near meeting even a low bar.

Should the top G5 champ be considered for an 8-team playoff? Absolutely. And in fact, both UCF in 2018 and Cincy in 2020 would have made a straight-8 playoff. But should the G5 champ be automatically in? No.

Pac 12 would meet the same threshold as the AAC then since they made it a couple years (same as AAC NY6 wins) and haven't most years.

The problem is as we've all seen from the committee if there is not an autobid the goal posts will be moved to prevent anyone not in an autonomous conference + ND from getting in.

Well, we actually haven't "seen" that. Some people do believe it though.

The best solution to that problem IMO would be to let computers do the selecting.