(02-24-2022 05:20 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(02-24-2022 05:05 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(02-24-2022 04:48 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  I think I've been pretty clear here that I'm no fan of Biden. But how would things have been different with Trump as President as it pertains to Ukraine?

Didn't Trump run on a platform of "we're not going to get involved in other people's wars!"?

Perhaps he would have been more likely to give assurances that Ukraine wouldn't be joining NATO?

You're no fan of the man you voted for? In what ways has he disappointed you? Although it seems you are not the only democrat to feel this way.

IMO, we would not be facing this situation if Trump was still President. Putin did not move in the four years Trump was in office.

At the very least, Trump kept the hydrocarbon boot on Vlad's neck. Hydrocarbon policy is probably one of *the best* methods of Russia check since a massively disproportionate amount of their economy is based on that.

When Biden loosened that necktie (he was probably a dumb*** on that point, and did it in response to the Green constituency), that was a massive shift in allowing Vlad to exercise his strong arm.

And he doubled down on them today. "Our sanctions package is specifically designed to allow energy payments to continue."

Instead of US production keeping a boot on Russia, the tables are now turned. Biden is now so scared of Russia oil and the effects on the price that he wont go down the most effective sanction path at all. In fact "Our sanctions package is specifically designed to allow energy payments to continue."

What a raging imbecilic fktard in that regard.

In distinction, I guarantee you under Trump that card would be a killer card to play. Amongst others.

Trump was harshly criticized for treating Putin like a fellow businessman, but just look at the spectacular display of ideological lip-service and hypocrisy going on now!