(01-20-2022 10:58 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 05:11 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  And if a parent wants to use their voucher, make them settle for second- or third- best, even if they have no objection to the religious teaching. Of course, this would limit true choice to the wealthy...

And this is the point of vouchers.

The wealthy are perfectly fine with private schools, willing to simply 'eat' the school taxes they pay... but for many parents, especially those who work or live in 'inconvenient' areas, their choices are limited. Anything that increases a parent's options for their children is GOOD for the child, since that parent (right or wrong) is the primary influencer of that child. You can certainly have some specific criteria as they already do through accreditation.

Even for some parents, their options might be... their child on a public bus (not a school bus with other kids, but METRO with adults... some who aren't 'all there') for an hour or more each way, or he has to attend a 'bible class' for 45 minutes and his parents can 'fill in the blanks' or 'correct the errors' he's being taught. Many would choose the latter... and you certainly seem to have survived and managed to overcome the horror.

(01-19-2022 05:15 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  I will say, I do really appreciate how liberal you conservatives are here - willing to spend tax payer funds on private education.

I thought y'all hated that when it came to higher education...

I've got no major issue with vouchers, but I do think they should be limited to secular primary schools.

We would all be more than happy if supposed liberals would allow people who didn't attend public schools to not have to pay to attend them... that would be even better for middle class Americans... but that isn't happening... so this is the compromise. Funny that when we try and compromise with 'your side', you essentially accuse us of being hypocrites. Way to further reasonable adult conversation there, Lad.

I was trying to further the conversation with other posts, but that definitely wasn't one. But let's not comment on how others posted similarly slanderous things about liberals...

The "supposed liberals" comment comes off as odd. Of course liberals advocate for people paying taxes to fund services they don't use. It'd far more likely a conservative advocates for that sort of taxation model.

I also don't buy the idea that a tax break for sending your child to a private school would inherently help the middle class. For starters, one's tax savings would have to offset the tuition at a private school. I would be hard pressed to believe you would ever see that happen, given how many more people are, in essence, paying for the public school as opposed to the private school.

I don't know why vouchers are being viewed as a compromise - what is being compromised? Is one view that we should have public schools and the other that we shouldn't? If so, then yeah, vouchers are a compromise.