(10-14-2021 06:25 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 04:59 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(10-13-2021 03:47 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(10-13-2021 03:29 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(10-13-2021 02:43 PM)BSWBRice Wrote:  What types of cash jobs? You're probably right to some extent, though I'm drawing a blank on what roles might've popped up over the past 18 months.

It is weird that all these low paying roles were filled, COVID hit, and now these workers seem to have disappeared. I don't think the $1800 stimmy is still carrying the day.

Apologies if this has already been hashed and re-hashed; sometimes I skim over some of the back-and-forth.

edit: sentence structure

Food delivery, Uber, lawn care, odd jobs, construction, anything a lot of people do for cash without reporting the cash income. Not saying it is new stuff that suddenly appeared in the last year. Just that somebody making more than $15/hour between a cash job + givernment benefits may not in a hurry to take a $15/hour job. The loss of regular jobs due to the pandemic forced people to accommodate, and for some, maybe those accommodations sound better now than going back to the old ways.

JMHO. But it makes sense, and nobody else has made a better suggestion.

I'd be surprised if Uber and food delivery apps allow for that sort of non-reporting. All of the payments are electronic and no cash passes between people.

Funny, every now and then I actually drive Uber. Have done so since I moved back to Texas. Mainly to get out of the house and clear my head.

Do it a number of times down in Fredericksburg on the weekends as well.

A fair number of the times I have been tipped in straight cash, outside of the app.

Your last sentence is patently false.

Maybe work on your reading comprehension? (snark gets snark)

Tipping isn’t payment - how many times have your fares been paid in cash? I specifically mentioned that cash tipping does occur. I estimated that maybe 10% of the time is was cash. I’ve got no problem if I’m off on the percentage, but I doubt nearly anyone is paying for their rides in cash.

Well here is your comment, lad:

Quote:Uber and food delivery apps don't typically garner cash tips because everything is done electronically - including tipping.

The first 8 words are incorrect form personal experience.

The phrase 'because *everything* is done electronically is just patently false, lad.

You reiterate that: 'All of the payments are electronic and no cash passes between people.' Again, patently false.

So cut your fing crap about *my* reading comprehension and look at *your* fing explicit words.

Now, when the error is noted, you come back with another lad-redefinition --- 'Tipping isnt payment'. Seriously? When someone hands cash to you at the end of a service, what exactly is it then? Liver? An igloo? Is it a 'penguin'?

lets simply focus on one segment of *your* comments -- "NO cash passes between people." Period. It does. It is called a 'tip'. More specifically a 'tip IN CASH'.

Perhaps *you* work on *your* reading comprehension, or perhaps you put some extra time into actually putting those after the fact dodges and 'clarifications' into your sentences *before* you backfill on them.

And actually, lad, there are times where a fare is paid in cash. This following scenario happens a bit ---

a) rider ride hales, gets a price Z;
b) driver shows up. Rider says -- can you take me to X (the destination) for Y (which is say, 2/3 Y, and quite a bit more than driver will clear).
c) driver says 'Im game'
d) rider then cancels trip on app, pays driver, and off they go. The smart drivers turn off their phone so Uber cant track them and correlate the endpoint with the original end point. Then after the trip drives about 5 miles, and re-enters the Uber pool.
e) the smart riders only do this maybe 10% of the time, and save it for longer, more expensive trips.
f) the dumb riders think that anything and everything must flow through the app at all times.

Or think the following:

a) rider ride hales for place A, gets a price Z;
b) driver shows up. Either at the pickup, or in the middle of the ride, rider changes to place B --- say, 30% past place B.
c) agreement is made to head to B.
d) car goes to A, driver presses 'ended passenger ride'. Rider passes a twenty to driver, driver proceeds to B on a cash basis.
e) only after making it to B does he/she answer hale requests.

Or think a variation of above, where driver picks up two or more people --- say three girls out on the town and one three or four miles closer in than the other two. The variation on the steps above happens all the time in that situation.

So again, in addition to your dance around the tip issue, hard cash at times does get passed in the Uber-driver thing. You simply assume that everything, at all times flows through the app.

Kind of a drastic mistake in that sense. But blame me for your incorrect assumptions why dont you, *and* for your own very clear language on that '[a]ll of the payments are electronic and no cash passes between people.' The words 'all' and 'no' stand out and are false. Those are *your* constructions, lad.