(07-15-2021 07:45 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(07-14-2021 10:10 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(07-14-2021 10:06 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(07-14-2021 09:44 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(07-14-2021 09:11 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I guess I will have to say I have not followed the vaccine debates, and I am too busy to bother to read up on it. I don’t know which party supports what. My personal opinion is that everybody should get vaccinated.

I tend to vote Republican, as the alternative is Democrats. But I try to take issues one at a time. Like you, I would be against any racial voter suppression. But I don’t see any - just a bunch of Democrats crying wolf.

However, it does not take a great deal of research or even consciousness to know the Democrats are fighting voter laws tooth and nail, to the point of fleeing the state. Hard to imagine anybody not knowing those basics. One could reasonably wonder what they think are wrong with the laws. I don’t think I was ever so unknowledgeable when I was running three businesses and out of the country half the time, plus raising three kids a s a single parent. Yes, I had my busy times.

Thank you for that. Yes... I am aware of the basics that you laid out. What I have said (repeatedly) is that I haven't dived into the specific arguments made by those who feel that these laws specifically affect black voters. It's not intuitive to me. Apparently it's not intuitive for you either. I'm sure that you can find plenty of articles on the topic were you inclined to pursue it outside of the Quad.

That’s just it. I have read dozens. Not one has any specifics of WHY the legislation is deemed to be racist and suppressive. Not one offers any explanation of HOw or WHO. Literally, all we have is a bunch of Democrats and their MSM carping about how they are standing against the racist GOP plans. Might as well say they are fighting voodoo. Or zombies. I think they have successfully duped their rank and file, by accusations with no facts, even as they condemn Trump for alleging fraud “without proof”. What a trick.

It’s a lie, because they know it’s not true.

But enough. You and Lad cannot bring yourselves to deny the fake crisis.

Oh do please sod off.

I literally just said that I'm completely open to the possibility that race isn't a factor but I haven't studied the opposing arguments.

Not a denial, though. Just a statement that you are open minded and maybe will decide later.

A statement that I typically like to educate myself on a debate before I choose I side.

Quote:I would like somebody, anybody, to show me how any part of the GOP law not only suppresses voting, but specifically suppresses black voting, as the Democrats in Austin and DC allege. I don’t care if that somebody is a Democrat, but Imthink it more likely that a Dem would know or at least have an idea. Thus I turn to,you and Lad.

Thus you turn to me? Again... in order to figure out why some people think these laws are racist one would have to read those arguments. Again... this is not an intuitive concept just because I vote Democrat. Quit asking Lad and me to explain it to you. If it is such a compelling topic go read the arguments for it.

Quote:Sod off, huh? Aren’t you one of the ones who complain about the incivility here? I think the incivility and name calling flows from the left more than from the right. JMHO. But I will not stoop to the level of telling you off. I am here to discuss, not win a puerile name calling contest.

Clearly you missed the part where Tanq called me a douche recently.

I'm sorry that I was annoyed at you after explaining my position on your query multiple times and yet you continue beat the drum of "You simply can't admit the lie."