(06-22-2021 09:54 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(06-22-2021 09:33 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(06-22-2021 09:29 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(06-22-2021 09:23 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(06-22-2021 09:12 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Not sure what your point is about Tanq's statement or mine.

But I will clarify mine for you.

We have made tremendous progress in race relations in the last 70 or so years. There was overt racism, , then, and now everyplace is open to everybody and nothing is separate but equal. But to hear the activist agitators, things are worse than ever. Shoot, a multimillionaire quarterback feels oppressed, and says the whole country is an oppressive country. A QB who has never been turned away from anything because of his race.

Do you think that black people still don't face any bias/discrimination in 2021?

93, as usual you go to all or nothing mode. No, I don't think that, but I think it is not the overwhelming problem you think it is. I remember the 50's when the world was much more racist and unfair to blacks, and I see the changes and the progress.

It just seemed that you were implying that CK never faced any discrimination in his life.

Quote:And of course, the activist agitators are urgently demanding immediate action to correct things - defund the police, pay us reparations. They see racism where none exists, as in the furor over the so-called voter suppression. Seems like they feel some urgency now, as they probably see a less than two year window to pass their wish lists into law. So all of a sudden these agendas are of utmost urgency in Congress and state houses.

I don't think the police are racist top to bottom, coast to coast. I don't think they are hunting black people to murder. But that is the narrative, reinforced by hundreds of riots/protests. Thast narrative adds some urgency, does it not?

I think very, very, very few people believe this.

It is the narrative, the narrative of system racism you preach.

Quote:That is not the narrative that I preach. You can point out the lingering effects of racism/slavery without going completely hyperbolic like the bolded does. LOL... did you not just accuse me of going "all or nothing"?

Like it or not, it is the narrative of system racism. You and many others point to this as a major problem that must addressed. Black people are getting killed daily by racist cops. Big part of the Defund/rethink/abolish the police movement.

I feel comfortable that I can believe in bias/current racism in America without being lumped in with the extremists and their off-the-reservation (IMO) POVs.

When did I say that black people are killed daily by racist cops? Serious hyperbole.

Again... you seem to be saying that I either don't buy into the idea of current biases or I need to accept that I am part of the most extreme woke SJWs of our society. It seems that it is completely "all or nothing" with you!