(05-10-2021 09:56 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-10-2021 09:39 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(05-10-2021 09:34 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-10-2021 09:32 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(05-10-2021 09:24 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  You are absolutely talking about race-based hiring. Your business decisions involve racial quotas. Again... no problem with it but just pointing it out. It's pretty clear.

Feel free to drop out of the discussion if you want.

I haven't seen Numbers mention quotas. That came from 93.

Yeah... he didn't say, "I advocate the use of racial quotas for these specific businesses." You are correct.

What he said was, "What I am saying is that if I'm trying to sell to Hispanic, Black, and Asian customers, then looking at my labor force and executive suite in totality, I better see Hispanics, Blacks, and Asians well represented."

Is there a difference?

Yes. A quota is a specific numerical goal. If he had a quota of, say, 20% black employment, it would be 20% at every branch regardless of the customer base. Instead, it appears to me he is saying he would want his employees to represent roughly the customer base. I am sure you are fine with that if the customer base was primarily minorities, but are you still fine with that if the customer base is white?

Numbers, if I misunderstand you, my apologies.

Are there retail stores still where the customer base is "white"? I don't think so in Houston but certainly in other parts of the country it seems likely there still are.

I don't think if a store is hiring they should turn down a qualified person of color simply based on their race. That goes the other way as well for black-owned businesses.

I guess I understand the interest in having the retail employees somewhat reflect their customer base in terms of general composition but is that really necessary in 2021?

I hear a lot comments from the race-activists about the importance of having a staff "that looks like the community". This seems to be a subset of that.

Retail stores in certain areas will have customer bases that slew heavily to one demographic. A long time since I've been in Houston, but do you consider River Oaks and Pasadena the same market?

Not just retail establishments, but all sorts of businesses.

For example, the player base in the poker room at a nearby casino is about 95% white/Asian. I would imagine management cares more about running an efficient and legal operation than hiring X% of this race and no more than Y% of that race. I don't think they have a single black dealer, and I would expect that to be more dependent on the applicant pool than any racial discrimination. But if by hiring the most qualified, they ended up with 90% black, that would be OK with me.