(05-01-2021 04:02 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-01-2021 02:12 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(05-01-2021 12:39 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  

(05-01-2021 10:28 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Seemed o me that Tanq was making an effort to be “nice”, but was not reaping niceness in return.

I have tried to be “nicer” also, but it does not change their responses to me. I think they are just so entrenched in me as the the bad guy.

In similar vein:
- Many years ago, when Fort Bend Owl got mad at me (and abused his moderator privileges in the process) about something, I reached out to try to mend fences. Instead of appreciating the effort, he actually resented it and (according to a recent message from him, which he has not allowed me to reply to) has harbored a grudge about it for a decade.

- Several years ago, when I reached out to Barrett and one of his sidekicks to try to find common ground on a particular topic, they rebuffed the overtures with even greater haughtiness than before (which I wouldn't have thought was possible).

- Two years ago, when OwlJacket went a bit off the rails and I reached out to see if we could patch things up, it only inflamed him further (which again I would not have thought was possible). He not only dug in his heels but also started making false accusations as well as some obscenely bizarre insults.

To be clear, in the grand scheme of things, these folks are outliers. There are others I've reached out to (and vice versa) in similar circumstances who have understood and appreciated the effort, with very positive results for all involved. The underlying difference seems to be their essential maturity, self-confidence, and good faith compared to the few mentioned above.

You name three of the people who have given me trouble. Maybe that is why I respect you - we have common enemies.

No, seriously, I appreciate your on-point and learned posts regardless.

But specifically to the three libs who post/used to post here - Lad, 93, Big - I have tried to post in a nicer way the last 6-12 months, but they seem entrenched in being anti-OO. Doesn't really matter. I enjoyed the hiatus where I could post things that seemed important to me or that reflected points of interest to me. Fine with me if they want to go sulk over their "bad" treatment. All I want is people on the other side who will address my points and questions. They weren't doing that anyway.

Perception is a funny thing.

OO, IMO you have been less nice over the past six months. I feel that you used to be more reasonable in your interactions with "our side". I'm not saying that you haven't tried to be nicer... but our perceptions are at odds.

I certainly haven't seen Tanq aiming for "nice". I honestly have no idea where you came up with that.

Again... simply my perception and obviously it's no more or less valid than yours.

Less sarcasm, more facts, and I can understand his frustration at your continual ignoring of his facts. of course, diverting the discussion into the hog hunting channel did not help.

I would ask you again what currently proposed gun law changes would have prevented any of these mass shootings, but I know better than to expect an answer. Also incredibly frustrating.


And my perception of your responses likewise has changed over the last six months - they have changed toward being more unreasonable and more entrenched in dogma.

It seems to me I have looked in the mirror and tried to change, and you have looked in the mirror and seen no need to change. Just my perception. Equally valid.

Now I have tried to present facts and opinions you might disagree with in as polite a way as possible - sorry if you are offended.