(03-06-2021 09:55 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  I mean... the huge difference is that Biden was complimenting Indian-Americans and Trump was doing the opposite.

You just articulated very clearly EXACTLY what I was speaking about.

You are repeating something that is absolutely not true.

Trump was NOT insulting Mexican AMERICANS. That is absolutely not true. That is precisely my point and you just admitted the disconnect in the comparison.

He was insulting people who WERE NOT Americans, who were not even necessarily MEXICAN nationals or even Hispanic. He was insulting people who were BREAKING OUR LAWS to come to this country, to ILLEGALLY take jobs, who create an almost permanent under-class AND encourage a criminal or abusive employment element against them (that often spreads to others) because they live in the shadows and away from the protection of our laws. Trump didn't say it very well, like Biden didn't... but while certainly there are racists who simply don't like Mexicans, the OVERWHELMING majority of those who supported his comments and laws. NOT ONE law was passed or proposed that targeted Mexican AMERICANS.

EVen as far as illegal immigration goes, Its like the left is saying they're okay with people breaking in to a closed store because the products in the store are better than what they have at home. YOu would likely argue that they face starvation, danger etc etc at home, and that MAY or may not be true. If its True, then that should submit their plight to the authorities, be vetted, registered and PROTECTED by our laws.. and not targets of internal AND external predators.... and just as important, NOW THE US CAN PRESSURE THEIR HOME NATIONS WITH FACTS AND PEOPLE and not merely statistical analysis and anecdotes. We would have actual CASE FILES to take to (say) Mexico and say... We believe the Police Chief in THIS city named 'whatever his name is' is exploiting people in his town. Here is our witness. FIX IT, and then that person can decide if they want to return home to a now safe location, or if they want to stay here.

BUT... Instead the left wants to mis-represent Trump's position, and call anyone who supports his position a racist, and create division and conflict, often ARMED conflict and the APPEARANCE of racial division (which only ENCOURAGES actual racists) when NO SUCH RACIAL DIVISION EXISTS.

There are LOTS of Democrats or those who would vote Democrat but didn't who do not support people entering this country illegally. LOTS of them. LOts of them are immigrants/people of 'other' races. There are lots of HIspanic Americans who do NOT support illegal immigration.

There are thread pages and pages long on this forum where the left has repeatedly ignored the word 'illegal' when talking about 'immigrants'. Those are NOT the same people.