(02-13-2021 07:47 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(02-13-2021 06:30 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(02-13-2021 04:18 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(02-13-2021 01:08 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(02-13-2021 12:54 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  So Cuomo's lies are because of Trump's tweets, and not because Cuomo is a lying scumbag?

It clearly seems to have been influenced by the Trump admin (see quote above).

Cuomo deserves the entire blame for letting that influence impact the decision. Had the Trump admin acted differently, perhaps Cuomo would have. But Cuomo made that bed, regardless.

So Cuomo initially obfuscated and buried thousands of deaths in nursing homes;

then the DOJ acts and trump tweets;

and then they decide to really cover it up.

All orange man bad there.

Perhaps Cuomo deserves the entire blame for first jamming the nursing homes with infected; and deserves the entire blame for covering that up prior to the DOJ investigation.

But how *dare* Trump make note of the crappy policies, and how dare that he open an investigation into the dumping issue.

How dare he let the opening up of his own fuckups impact that decision, you mean.

What part of “Cuomo deserves the entire blame” doesn’t mean “Cuomo deserves the entire blame?”

Hate to tell you what you wrote was "Cuomo deserves the entire blame for letting that influence impact the decision." Note everything subsequent to the word 'blame'. (hey, single quotes to delineate a word instead of its meaning, just making sure you remember'...)

The qualifier 'for letting that influence impact the decision' kind of changes it well away from the unqualified 'Cuomo deserves the entire blame' that you denote above.

Quote:As I said, perhaps Cuomo would have acted different, but he didn’t. How he acted is what matters, and he made that bed by making a bad decision about the nursing homes and then trying to hide the numbers.

You’re taking a tangential point I made and turning it into the focal point (which it isn’t) and then ignoring everything else to suggest I was saying “all orange man bad there.”

I am taking your explicit point of 'Blame Cuomo for letting the influence impact the decision' as the starting point. A starting point that neglects any blame for **** things he did even before the trump tweets, and, honestly, tries to give him a pass because of the Trump tweets.

Quote:Your insistence to shield Trump from any criticism under almost any circumstances is impressive. Almost as good as your persistence to try and get others to argue positions they haven’t taken.

Again, I am only responding to specifically and explicitly what you wrote, lad. Funny that.

What tweets are you talking about? It sounds like you think I was referencing a specific diatribe or tweet storm from Trump, which apparently happened well into the pandemic?