(01-22-2021 02:25 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(01-22-2021 12:15 AM)mrbig Wrote:  

(01-21-2021 11:39 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I don't know how many people are employed by these mines, but there sure are a lot of them in a lot of states, including Texas.

list of coal mines in the US

"According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA), there were 853 coal mines in the U.S. in 2015, producing a total of 896,941,000 short tons of coal."

I am guessing that nationwide there are a lot of people working in/for coal mines. In 2016, before the election, I met a Wyoming miner. He and his wife were both employed by the mining company - she drove a truck.

According to the S&P, just over over 50,000 coal miners nationally. According to Forbes, solar employs more than oil, gas, and coal combined, with ~250,000 jobs in the solar industry. Saw multiple sites that said the wind energy industry employs 110,000 to 120,000 people. That isn’t to discredit coal miners, but let’s at least have some perspective here.

The *real* issue isnt '#s of people employed'. If the issue was to maximize the number of people employed, then the US should convert to pedal powered power -- *that* would employ a good 15 million or so to provide the energy needs here.

The issue is persons employed/energy provided.

When you realize the power of the entire Corpus Christi windmill networks (i.e. all the windmills within 40 miles of CC) is balanced by four to ten pumpjacks in Iraan Texas, it seems pretty stupid to employ 250,000 people for that purpose.

It’s all about value. And that’s why I keep harping on how disingenuous Cruz’s argument is. Plenty of people on the US value the externalities of renewables more than those of fossil fuels, and are willing to support the continued push towards increasing our renewable footprint.

So when Cruz says the accords aren’t in the interest of the people of the US, he is ignoring all those who the accords are in the interest of. You seem really worried about the 74 million Trump voters being ignored, but when Cruz ignores those who you disagree with? **** them, says Tanq.