(01-21-2021 03:24 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(01-21-2021 03:04 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(01-21-2021 01:40 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(01-21-2021 01:27 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(01-21-2021 12:32 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Notice how I didn't comment on Cruz criticizing it?

You called him a 'bloviating blahbitty blah blah'. That isnt a comment I guess.

Quote:I commented on Cruz being disingenuous in his arguments. If he wants to make substantive points, go ahead.

But the treaty has nothing to actually do with the views of Paris' citizens, and Pittsburgh has publicly supported the accords, saying that they were going to maintain the obligations when Trump pulled out in 2017.

I guess you missed the point being made is that it values the priorities of everyone else *but* that of the United States. Perhaps in your traipsing around the language you didnt look for the broader point therein.

The mother ****** said Pittsburg! He didn't say the US. He didn't even say at the exclusion of the US. He is making a disingenuous argument via rhetoric to try and score political points.

If he wants to argue what you're saying he is arguing, then he should do that. Instead, he is using a town that broadly disagrees with his position, as a pawn in a game of politics.

Perhaps in your bending over backwards to defend Ted, you didn't actually think about how else he could have made his point, in a clearer and more genuine way.

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Quote:Plus, (and maybe the favorite comment I've seen) that doesn't even get into the fact that Cruz openly supported throwing out the electoral votes from Pittsburg. So does he actually care about what Pittsburg's citizens want if he is so willing to throw away their voice?

Wtf does that have to do with price of tea in China? Sounds to me like you lifted some half assed 'attack Cruz comments from any angle' piece and are parroting them.

What does Ted, seemingly speaking for the people of Pittsburg, have to do with Ted actively fighting to keep the voice of the people of Pittsburg unheard?

I'll let you do the math there, it's quite easy.

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Quote:Again, my comment was clearly about his disingenuous comments.

yes, how dare he use Pittsburgh as an example. Dayton would have solved all your problems above from what I can see.

You are stretching for some hit shots there, lad. Of course we should expect some treatise on Pittsburgh from you now to prove how germane and on point your pitch is.... 3... 2.... 1.....

I mean, yeah, he should know what people want. Imagine me saying something like "The people of Alabama have been fighting for stricter gun control laws, and I, the Senator from Vermont, will not let the Senator from Texas go against their will."

It's fricken idiotic and disingenuous, just like Cruz's statement. But I'm glad his shallow and rhetorically bad statement gets your gears turning. It explains why he keeps winning races in Texas.

I dont give a flip if Cruz uses 'Pittsburgh', or Allegheny, or West Virginia for that matter given the broader point he is making.

You seem to get your britches riled up over Pittsburgh apparently -- its kind of cute....

As for the treatise on 'Pittsburgh' that I had the countdown for:

3.... 2..... 1...... We have liftoff!!!!

As to the bold, now that we have not just 1, but 2!!! treatises on Pittsburgh from you and how horrible that it, I hate to tell you its not *me* that Cruz seemingly has gears turning in their head like backflips about, does it?

I mean, we now have 2 treatises from *you*. Lolz. Dont channel your obsession on Pittsburgh to me, lad.

The horrors...... he used 'Pittsburgh', the sheer unadulterated horror. How do you live with enduring that sheer horror?

Yeah, you don't feel the need to bend over backwards to defend Cruz's argument. I hate to tell you, but you've vigorously responded in equal numbers to either defend Cruz's disingenuous critique or to try and minimize my criticism of his action. Your argument boils down to you being OK with your personal interpretation of his shallow commentary, because you agree with the argument you're concocting in your head. So Cruz's silly, paint-by-number approach works for you because you're filling in your own painting.

And you can try and say that you aren't obsessing over this, but if you cared so little about the issue at hand, why respond? Your actions are telling here.

I find Cruz's public comments to be shallow and disingenuous. You disagree, and do so because you're ignoring the words he wrote and filling in the blanks left over by the removal of those words.

I just ignore your wing flapping.

My argument is: Ted is saying that the PA do more for making foreign jackasses feel good than helping the United States.

You are the one going into rather stupid parse ****, not me.

'ooodledy boodledy Cruz mentioned *Pittsburgh*!!!! How DARE he mention PITTSBURGH (the evil Cruzster that he is).'

I mean you fixate irrationally on Pittsburgh.

Bfd. Cross out Pittsburgh and put in West Virginia miners. But NO! HE MENTIONED PITTSBURGH. Hate to tell ya, lad, the message is unchanged. But obsess some more over Pittsburgh, whydoncha. Bright shiny new toy and all I guess......

I mean you are seriously losing the view of the forest for the singular Pittsburgh pine tree here, and you are the one jacked up over that.

It is like you cant contemplate in any way, shape, or form the larger message. Got it.