(01-19-2021 12:56 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(01-19-2021 12:53 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(01-19-2021 12:25 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  it really sounds like your idea of unity is Biden and other Dems is for them to do what Reps/Trump supporters want,

It is the words of the democrats that they want unity, but not their actions, not their goals. Actions and goals say they want vengeance and a country without dissent.

Impeachment, cancel culture, and STFU tell us the truth.

Besides impeachment, what are the cancel culture and "STFU tell us the truth" incidents you're talking about relating to Biden and other elected Dems?

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Quote:And to your last line, do you think ANY Trump supporters are seriously reaching out to Biden and the Dems?

No. I think they think the Democrats lack sincerity in their stated goal of unity. I know I do.

My focus will be on surviving until 2022.

So you've justified why Reps/Trump supporters are OK not seeking unity. Sounds like you must be OK with your idea that Dems aren't going to seek unity?

So its not just me whom you take what someone says and twist it around to say something they didn't so you can argue with that.

YOU implied that you think that dems are sincere. We don't think they are. Whether reps are or not isn't at issue, its just a deflection by you. Whether we 'prefer' it or not similarly isn't at issue. It is what it is. As I said, but perhaps not OO, though I don't think he'd vehemently disagree, it is the political base, what some people refer to as 'the swamp' that is not interested in unity... and there are members of both parties in 'the swamp'.

I said 4 years ago that I would have voted for Bernie over Trump had he been the nominee, and it was for this very reason. Bernie was not part of the DNC and was in fact attacked by it. He owed no huge favors to it and although he shared lots of ideals (like trump did with reps)... he would have been in more of a position to lead rather than follow. Hillary was not. Biden is not. For me... Bernie, Trump, Biden, Hillary, Harris (its REAL close in that bottom 3)... in that order. NOT because of policies.... but because of their ties to 'the swamp'. Trump for me beat Bernie on policies (in a massive way) and being even LESS connected to the elite ruling class... but his personality just completely turned me off... so much so that I was willing to prefer Bernie, especially if I got a Republican House and/or Senate.