(06-23-2020 04:37 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 04:34 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 04:24 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(06-23-2020 04:19 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  Just sayin"

"Every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street and building has been renamed, every date has been altered...History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." -- 1984, George Orwell

A few of these folks swept up into this frenzy have good hearts and want to help change things for the better. The vast majority of the leadership and organization of this stuff appear to have anything but the best interests of the people they want to say they represent in mind. If you want to help poor, oppressed people, join a church or a truly charitable organization that actually helps people in a non-violent way and help save a life from being aborted. Or help bring food to poor people; or donate medical attention to people who need it; or work with the elderly by visiting them; or read to children in hospitals that are undergoing serious treatment; or spend some time donating your talents to teach people to read and speak the language better; or donate your time spending actual time with people who are forgotten. None of these things, none, are being performed by or advocated for by the folks rousing trouble in the streets and cities. No constructive ideas or behaviors seem to be being touted or attempted. Construction beats destruction. None of the behaviors have been anything but destructive to the very people they say they want to help. They do not appear interested in actually helping in the least-they wish to destroy and exploit poor and minority people and deny them opportunities to lift up and join our society (which are goals we all would do well to have), and that is pretty evil.

Are you referring to the protestors? Or rioters? Or statue-topplers?

do you see those as distinctly different groups?

Heck yes. The millions of people who are protesting the killing of George Floyd /= rioters.

So a protester cannot be a rioter, and a rioter cannot be a protester, and neither can be a statue toppler?

I see much more overlap and commonality than that.

I see the protester set as a large circle.
Withing that circle is a smaller circle. That is the rioters and looters. also within the larger circle is another smaller one, the topplers. The latter two are both wholly within the larger AND they intersect.

That's the way I see it.