(06-01-2020 11:06 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 10:28 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 09:41 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 08:46 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

Quote:And he had a history of heart disease.

And he was collapsing and complaining of a shortness of breat *as* he was being detained.

Yet no evidence of heart attack on the autopsy.

Funny, I read the physical cause of death of 'his heart arrested'. Maybe you didnt read that far. The symptoms of cardiac arrest parallel what was happening there.

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Quote:Diatribe 'against Twitter experts'? Not at all. More of a diatribe against people that pull them out of their back pocket to support their own predispositon. You should clue into that.

I thought her credentials would give opinions some weight. Certainly more weight than anybody commenting on this thread at least.

And not nearly as much as someone who actually sees and examines the body. Funny that. That is a problem with Dr Twitter in a Can in this instance. As noted, I prefer the actual facts instead of the opinion of Dr Twitter in a Can. I hope you can appreciate the very major differences therein.

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Quote:I find it strange that you are still on a butthurt roll because I wanted to see what the medical examiner said, as opposed to taking your expert view.

The official medical examiner has spoken, hasnt he? As opposed to your Twitter expert that you rolled out of the woodwork, the findings of the Hennepin County Pathologist say: heart stopped, fentynal, meth, cadiovascualr disease, restraint.

Homicide is what they called it. You left that one out.

I included the physical manifestations of the body (i.e. the physical issues of the body that led to Floyd's death). Please do tell what the physical manifestations of 'homicide' are.

Well you included the term "restraint" which is not a "physical issue of the body" so I wasn't sure were you are going.

What do you think about the cause of death listed on the report when they said: Cardiopulmonary arrest, restraint, neck compression?

I think to read the section "How injury happened" in conjunction with that. That section denotes 'decedent suffered cardiopulmonary arrest while being restrained by officers.' Period. Had they discussed how the neck compression did this, that might be. Funny, they did not.

Quote:Do you think that the "cardiopulmonary arrest" could be related to the knee in the neck

Perhaps. I dont know.

Quote:or do you think this guy was having a heart attack when he was arrested (but prior to him being kneeled on)?

Again, perhaps. And again, I dont know. You magically do know. Funny that.

As I noted before, had there been medical evidence of asphyxia, there really wouldnt be those questions or doubts. Instead, what we have is somewhat of a hodgepodge in the lack of information there.

Again, I preferred to wait for the pathologists determination prior to kneejerk assuming items. The core thing I take away from this is that you do not. Sound about right?

I didn't see any reasonably likely scenario on the pathology report that would have made the line "killing of George Floyd" inaccurate. Based on what we know know form the medical examiners, I still don't.