(05-22-2020 02:02 AM)Stugray2 Wrote:  

(05-22-2020 12:21 AM)SDHornet Wrote:  I'm glad the UC's are going to have some classes and some ADs in both UC's and CSU's are saying they are having sports. I think that means CSU will have to go back on their "virtual only" stance and there is a very strong chance sports are played this fall. There is too much money at stake to not have both of those things in some capacity.

I don't think it does. The CSU structure is different than the UC's. Most students commute, a very large percentage still living with their parents or family. The CSU schools are not dependent upon foreign students to pay for the high overhead, unlike the UC schools.

possible exception: Cal Poly SLO

Two very systems are different animals. Both the student body with it's expectations and living situation, and the parking lot nature of class attendance (I know I went to San Jose State). Even many of those who live near campus it's more a choice to move out of the house while studying, but mom and dad are just 10 to 30 minutes away -- in this environment I think few will move out of the house until the situation is different.

While bike racks dominate UC campuses, tower parking lots dominate the CSU schools. With almost 8,000 parking spaces (plus a few thousand who park on the streets around campus and hike in, or who arrive by public transit, San Jose State resembles grand central station. At least 75% of the 35,000 or so students commute in, funneling into the Business or Math or Science or Engineering towers, literally thousands elbow to elbow going to classes in every room filled to the brim from 8am to 7:30pm, then filter back out through the narrow halls into the parking lot and home after 2 or 3 classes back to back, and the next wave come in and uses the same parking spots or if the lot is full (and they fill fast) on the street as close as you can get. This coming into campus in large crowds, then leaving back to home, many with older parents, is asking for a mass breakout. (I'm thinking SJSU, but it's far worse for say SF State)

But if you look at the UC schools and Cal Poly (Chico and SDSU are kind of residential, so maybe exceptions possible), pretty much all the students live on campus or very close, and the campuses are larger and easier to close to non-students, and restrict coming an going. You do not have the large commuter pool of the Cal States. It's bicycle racks more than parking lots. Students are not going back to mom and dad's house after class. There are a lot of reasons the UC schools are better setup for some on campus instruction than the CSU schools.

Just think about the physical layouts and the commuting patterns.

I'm not sure how you claim UC's are staying open for the money but somehow think that doesn't apply for the CSU's. There will be a significant chunk of revenue out the window via residential fees and parking permits for the CSU's if this stands.

Regarding the risk of a outbreak...meh. We would have seen worse than we did here in CA, I'm not too worried about the fear porn regarding a "2nd wave".

Regardless of all that (CA taxpayers will foot the bill in the end so it doesn't matter), I heard Sac State football is on for this fall so I'm good.