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(11-17-2020 01:16 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  

(11-17-2020 11:56 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Don't mean to antagonize you further, mturn, but when it comes to this virus the high priests and priestesses who think they know what is best for us have lost my trust. Hyperbole, lies and hypocrisy have a way of doing that. And I cannot speak for others, but I suspect that they have lost the trust of a significant portion of the American population. People are going to go to church. The are going to gather for Thanksgiving and Christmas. They are going to live their lives in a non-fearful manner.

No one on this board is telling you that you are not entitled to take whatever steps you think appropriate to keep yourself and your loved ones safe. I regret that you seem to think that I and others shouldn't have the same freedom of choice when it comes to exercising basic liberties.

Absolutely. The level of lies and deceit from our leaders is at an all time high. Politicians have never been overall trustworthy. But the divide is so wide at this point I’m not sure it will ever fully recover.

Edit: It is so easy to fact check these days. Everything a politician says is immediately fact-checked by the media. And now even Twitter and Facebook are putting out disclaimers. It is unfathomable to me how anyone can believe that they can get away with a lie unless they absolutely believe what they are saying is true.

They don't care. The Governor of California just went to a birthday party at a swank restaurant. The Governor of Illinois tacitly admittied his plan to head to his vacation home in Florida for Thanksgiving while issuing another stay-at-home order in his state, some lawmakers headed off to Hawaii to meet with lobbyists. Tell me again how the government is looking out for my safety....

https://www.politico.com/states/californ...gs-1336605