(02-11-2020 01:52 AM)Kronke Wrote:  

(02-11-2020 01:29 AM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  ... you realize other countries have Medicare for all systems right?

You realize no one wants our healthcare system right? Sure, rich people travel here for care sometimes because we do have some of the greatest doctors and facilities on the planet, but your average joe wouldn't take our system.

No one is looking at the USA and going "Hell yeah, let's pay 18% of our GDP for healthcare every year. Cant wait to have 500,000 medical bankruptcies per year. Sounds great"

Regardless, this is a pointless argument. I said my piece

Yes, tiny countries with vast oil reserves/sovereign wealth funds and a couple million people packed into a handful of major cities on 15,000 square miles make it work. We also pay for their defense.

We have 330 million people projected to hit 570 million by 2100 on 4 million square miles, without even a secure border and politicians promising to cover anyone in the world that can manage to get here. The price tag on that is effectively infinity.

Our system works just fine for a lot of people. 92% have coverage. You need to figure out how to make it work for the other 8% instead of this "revolution" garbage.

How did you come to that number on medical bankruptcies? Was it the medical bill or the falling out of the work force? I've also heard stories where they poll who among those that declared bankruptcy had an outstanding medical bill, and then labeled them all "medical bankruptcies". So, I'm not sure I buy that.

There are plenty of large countries pop wise that have good healthcare systems (not necessarily M4A) such as Japan, Germany, and the UK. And as far as our population goes, that can be an advantage. Economies of scale is a thing, even in the healthcare industry.

But really we just aren't going to agree with each other over this issue, so I'm out