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(09-12-2019 11:10 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(09-12-2019 10:53 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  The offense was really good before Heinicke is well so I don't see how that is a valid point.

"Really good" vs whom?
The first two seasons were built on scheduling.
That we looked "really good" against the Presbyterians, Campbells, and Savannah States does not make an offense "really good", even then, especially since we had JUCOS and FCS transfers.

In fact, the only "really good" offensive performance vs a legitimate opponent pre Heinicke that I remember is the loss in 2011 vs Cal Poly.
Otherwise we were at best good vs the lower tier of competition. Against better competition, not so much.
That even applies to the DW led team of 2016.

They average 34 points per game in 2010, the very first year of football. They played against FCS, which was their level of competition.

They then had 4.5 games without Heinicke in 2011. Scored:

41 vs. Campbell
40 vs. Georgia State
45 vs. Hampton
17 vs. Delaware

They then had 25 at the half when Heinicke replaced an injured DeMarco.

The offense was really good for its level in 2010 and into 2011 in which he got even better with Heinicke. The thought that the offense was only good because of Heinicke is BS.

And that ignores this weird concept that the only reason the team was good was because they had good players (or were lucky to have good players)....or whatever strange concept that was applied.

ODU had the 27th ranked offense in FEI in 2016 (which considers level of competition).