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RE: UMKC going to Summit
(06-23-2019 07:35 PM)RoosHouse Wrote:  
(06-23-2019 07:04 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  
(06-23-2019 06:26 PM)RoosHouse Wrote:  
(06-23-2019 03:40 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  
(06-23-2019 11:14 AM)RoosHouse Wrote:  The Elephant in the room is that NMSU is so different financially from a sports perspective from every other school in the WAC (Compare NMSU vs Chicago St) that it will continue to cause instability in the WAC until they can find a football conference to join.

The jump NMSU made this year in basketball was very impressive and they looked like a sweet 16 team if they had been paired against anyone but Auburn.

There is just no competitive balance when NMSU can recruit the way they are so there is little incentive to finance sports when the WAC is so top heavy.

I'll enjoy the WAC for one last year.

Every team in the conference is different financially from Chicago State. NMSU is not winning because they have financial advantages. They win with better coaching and a basketball brand, a tradition than attracts quality recruits. Here are the 2017-2018 basketball budgets for the WAC schools:

Grand Canyon - $5,337,280
Seattle - $2,993,341
NMSU - $2,485,019
CSUB - $2,172,991
UVU - $1,861,238
UMKC - $1,859,426
CBU - $1,768,970
UTRGV - $1,589,120
Chicago State - $1,192,542

The WAC had three schools in the top 100 of Net ranking last season (NMSU, UVU, GCU). NMSU was the dominant team, but there are other good schools in this conference. GCU has done a very good job of recruiting and a poor job of developing talent. Seattle and CBU will be tougher this next season. CBU's basketball budget will eventually grow to second behind GCU.

NMSU beats Auburn if Kyle Guy is shooting the free throws instead of Terrell Brown. The difference between Virginia beating Auburn and NMSU not winning is just hitting free throws.

I believe those are just operating budgets. NMSU is still 33% higher than UMKC. What about the total assets? Owning the Pan AM Center vs renting the Muni. The operating budgets start to widen more.

NMSU athletics doesn't own the Pan Am. Special Events does and athletics pays them $20,000 a year to play there. VB, MBB and WBB are just tennants.

At UMKC, the players can only shoot around during 'business' hours. I guess since the gym is connected to Swinney. They can't shoot around during the evening or late weekends. Then you look around and see our weight room and even athletic offices. Big difference in Athletic Assets that operating budgets don't always show was the point I was making.

You are right. UMKC stinks, they have no money and the refs are out to get them as part of a huge WAC conspiracy. The only way to solve all these problems is to drop to a lower conference with inferior teams where you will still be a bottom feeder...
06-24-2019 08:57 AM
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UMKC going to Summit - sctvman - 06-20-2019, 08:26 PM
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