(11-08-2017 11:44 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(11-08-2017 11:02 AM)MU88 Wrote:  

(11-08-2017 10:21 AM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

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(11-08-2017 06:21 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  If they are guilty they HAVE embarrassed their school and the USA. How difficult is it to NOT shop lift while in a foreign country? Doesn't take a "ridiculous standard" to avoid doing that, eh?

It is embarrassing and they should be disciplined. But jail?

They should be sent back the US immediately where they should be charged for the crime. I'm no lawyer and I have little experience with shop lifting. But I don't think we send people to jail for 3 years for minor crimes do we?

Go shop lift from LV here in the states and see what happens to you. You'll be in jail.

But remember, the criminal justice system in the United States is unfair. (Even though the USA is ranked 15-20 in the world of the past few rankings by the World Justice Project) Isn't that why the NFL players are kneeling? Also, in a recent poll, 1/2 of millennials would rather live in a socialist or communist state like China. Hence, isn't the situation where you are held for minor offenses for weeks (and even years in some cases) without charges, the lack of bail, and the potential of years in jail (and death for a gun crime), exactly what some people are calling for in the US?

While there are problems with the US justice system and there is always room for improvement, kind of goes to show you how the system operate in other places around the world. In Singapore, a teenager who pleaded guilty to graffiti, throwing eggs at cars, etc. was sentenced to 4 months in prison, fined more than $2,000 and a flogging. In Zimbabwe, an American woman is facing 20 years in prison for insulting the President on Twitter. In Egypt, a wife was caught bringing her husband his prescription pain pills. He forgot them when he left Britain. Since the drug is banned in Egypt, she is facing the death penalty for trafficking. Why are those NFL players kneeling again?

They are kneeling because we can do better than we are doing. But hey who gives a ****. Egypt is now our benchmark.

It's not just Egypt.

I have an Iranian friend who has lived in the US for 10 years. Helluva guy. When he goes to visit family in Iran and Germany, people frequently ask him why he chooses to live in a racist country like the USA. He responds by asking them if they would allow their daughter to marry a black man. The response is ALWAYS, "No." (you'd get the same response in every Asian country, too).

The US is the most accepting society in the world, except maybe Canada. Can we do better? Sure. But there's a big difference between trying to do better and saying that the USA, its flag, its anthem, and its traditions are so racist that we can't support it.