Quote:Three UCLA players were arrested on Tuesday in China for shoplifting ahead of the Bruins’ season-opening game against Georgia Tech, according to ESPN’s Jeff Goodman. Those players are freshmen LiAngelo Ball, Cody Riley and Jalen Hill.

Ball is obviously the biggest name as the younger brother of former UCLA star Lonzo Ball and the older brother of UCLA commit LaMelo Ball. Riley and Hill each entered the program more touted than Ball as recruits. Riley is a 6’8 forward ranked No. 45 overall in the class of 2017 by ESPN, while Hill is also a 6’8 forward ranked No. 49 by ESPN.

UCLA and Georgia Tech play in China on Friday.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketb...orgia-tech

They have embarrassed not only their school but America with their actions. They should be thrown off the team & serve their time

(11-07-2017 03:57 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:Three UCLA players were arrested on Tuesday in China for shoplifting ahead of the Bruins’ season-opening game against Georgia Tech, according to ESPN’s Jeff Goodman. Those players are freshmen LiAngelo Ball, Cody Riley and Jalen Hill.

Ball is obviously the biggest name as the younger brother of former UCLA star Lonzo Ball and the older brother of UCLA commit LaMelo Ball. Riley and Hill each entered the program more touted than Ball as recruits. Riley is a 6’8 forward ranked No. 45 overall in the class of 2017 by ESPN, while Hill is also a 6’8 forward ranked No. 49 by ESPN.

UCLA and Georgia Tech play in China on Friday.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketb...orgia-tech

They have embarrassed not only their school but America with their actions. They should be thrown off the team & serve their time

I hope you hold yourself to these ridiculous standards.

(11-07-2017 04:32 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 03:57 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:Three UCLA players were arrested on Tuesday in China for shoplifting ahead of the Bruins’ season-opening game against Georgia Tech, according to ESPN’s Jeff Goodman. Those players are freshmen LiAngelo Ball, Cody Riley and Jalen Hill.

Ball is obviously the biggest name as the younger brother of former UCLA star Lonzo Ball and the older brother of UCLA commit LaMelo Ball. Riley and Hill each entered the program more touted than Ball as recruits. Riley is a 6’8 forward ranked No. 45 overall in the class of 2017 by ESPN, while Hill is also a 6’8 forward ranked No. 49 by ESPN.

UCLA and Georgia Tech play in China on Friday.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketb...orgia-tech

They have embarrassed not only their school but America with their actions. They should be thrown off the team & serve their time

I hope you hold yourself to these ridiculous standards.

Shoplifting in China .... man ... that could be a life sentence. Commie's don't play around.

Those are REALLY stupid kids. I'd kick em off the team for being total dumb asses.

(11-07-2017 04:32 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 03:57 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:Three UCLA players were arrested on Tuesday in China for shoplifting ahead of the Bruins’ season-opening game against Georgia Tech, according to ESPN’s Jeff Goodman. Those players are freshmen LiAngelo Ball, Cody Riley and Jalen Hill.

Ball is obviously the biggest name as the younger brother of former UCLA star Lonzo Ball and the older brother of UCLA commit LaMelo Ball. Riley and Hill each entered the program more touted than Ball as recruits. Riley is a 6’8 forward ranked No. 45 overall in the class of 2017 by ESPN, while Hill is also a 6’8 forward ranked No. 49 by ESPN.

UCLA and Georgia Tech play in China on Friday.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketb...orgia-tech

They have embarrassed not only their school but America with their actions. They should be thrown off the team & serve their time

I hope you hold yourself to these ridiculous standards.

I set the bar high for myself. Where as most in the world set the bar low so they can feel like they accomplish something.

(11-07-2017 05:46 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 04:32 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 03:57 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:Three UCLA players were arrested on Tuesday in China for shoplifting ahead of the Bruins’ season-opening game against Georgia Tech, according to ESPN’s Jeff Goodman. Those players are freshmen LiAngelo Ball, Cody Riley and Jalen Hill.

Ball is obviously the biggest name as the younger brother of former UCLA star Lonzo Ball and the older brother of UCLA commit LaMelo Ball. Riley and Hill each entered the program more touted than Ball as recruits. Riley is a 6’8 forward ranked No. 45 overall in the class of 2017 by ESPN, while Hill is also a 6’8 forward ranked No. 49 by ESPN.

UCLA and Georgia Tech play in China on Friday.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketb...orgia-tech

They have embarrassed not only their school but America with their actions. They should be thrown off the team & serve their time

I hope you hold yourself to these ridiculous standards.

I set the bar high for myself. Where as most in the world set the bar low so they can feel like they accomplish something.

Nothing says a high moral standard like half naked women shooting guns. hahahahaha

(11-07-2017 05:55 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 05:46 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 04:32 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 03:57 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:Three UCLA players were arrested on Tuesday in China for shoplifting ahead of the Bruins’ season-opening game against Georgia Tech, according to ESPN’s Jeff Goodman. Those players are freshmen LiAngelo Ball, Cody Riley and Jalen Hill.

Ball is obviously the biggest name as the younger brother of former UCLA star Lonzo Ball and the older brother of UCLA commit LaMelo Ball. Riley and Hill each entered the program more touted than Ball as recruits. Riley is a 6’8 forward ranked No. 45 overall in the class of 2017 by ESPN, while Hill is also a 6’8 forward ranked No. 49 by ESPN.

UCLA and Georgia Tech play in China on Friday.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketb...orgia-tech

They have embarrassed not only their school but America with their actions. They should be thrown off the team & serve their time

I hope you hold yourself to these ridiculous standards.

I set the bar high for myself. Where as most in the world set the bar low so they can feel like they accomplish something.

Nothing says a high moral standard like half naked women shooting guns. hahahahaha

Just showing my support for gun rights and women's rights for them to do whatever they want.

I have high moral standards in the real world. In the digital world well...

(11-07-2017 04:58 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  Shoplifting in China .... man ... that could be a life sentence. Commie's don't play around.

Those are REALLY stupid kids. I'd kick em off the team for being total dumb asses.

Three to ten years for shoplifting. Potential death penalty if carrying a weapon.

"Lonzo could've shoplifted a whole Macy's twice and gotten away with it."
~Lavar Ball

No Sympathy.

I think they should be kicked out of China, but also plead no contest in an agreement for a suspended sentence and in lieu of serving that, a ban from entering China again for say 7 to 10 years. Also UCLA should have to pay the damages.

What we often forget is >99% of all the stupid crimes committed by Americans overseas are just as illegal here in the US and just as subject to punishment. (What happens in their jails ... well what happens in our jails isn't pretty either.) I think it should go on their record in the U.S. perhaps serving probation here.

What complicates such an easy settlement is that the US and China lack an extradition treaty. In no small part because simply being a dissident (especially Uigher, Tibetan, Fulanist, or being related to a Chinese who is politically targeted) the declare criminal or even terrorist. It is suspected they have even kidnapped and repatriated US citizens of Chinese birth (my wife, who has not been a Chinese citizen for 20+ years could get pulled back). So if the Chinese decide to make a show of this, it can get very sticky.

(11-07-2017 06:21 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 05:55 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 05:46 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 04:32 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 03:57 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketb...orgia-tech

They have embarrassed not only their school but America with their actions. They should be thrown off the team & serve their time

I hope you hold yourself to these ridiculous standards.

I set the bar high for myself. Where as most in the world set the bar low so they can feel like they accomplish something.

Nothing says a high moral standard like half naked women shooting guns. hahahahaha

Just showing my support for gun rights and women's rights for them to do whatever they want.

I have high moral standards in the real world. In the digital world well...

Wanna moderate this but...


Can't

Stop

Watching...


*drools on keyboard*

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Stupid stunt, our government is going to have to rescue their stupid carcasses, they should get kicked off the team.


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It's like every single year I keep learning new reasons why college sports shouldn't matter to me anymore. I think I only watch because of Tulane. If it wasn't for them, I would probably have tuned it out years ago. It's beyond disgusting, it's actually surreal at this point. This is what happens when you worship athletic kids.

Those bathrooms in NC probably don't sound too bad right now

Quote:If standard practices are applied, the three UCLA basketball players – including LiAngelo Ball – arrested Tuesday in mainland China under suspicion of shoplifting face between three and 10 years in prison if convicted, according a lawyer familiar with Chinese law who communicated with Yahoo Sports on the condition of anonymity because he doesn’t want to speak out about the Chinese government.

The three men could be detained for more than a month without American-style bail before local prosecutors even decide whether to press charges, according to William Nee, a Hong Kong-based researcher of the Chinese court system for Amnesty International.

Nee said it is not uncommon for a defendant to wait 30-37 days before being officially indicted. Among those indicted, Chinese prosecutors enjoy a 99.2 percent conviction rate, according to Nee’s research.

While it is unknown exactly what the players are being detained for, Chinese law calls for a fine and between three to 10 years in prison for anyone convicted of “robbing public or private property using force, coercion, or other methods.”

Nee, however, added that the United States consulate working with local attorneys may be able to get a resolution to their case sooner, although nothing is certain under the Chinese system.

“I would say they could be in quite a bit of trouble if they have solid proof that they shoplifted,” Nee told Yahoo Sports. “However, part of it will depend on whether their lawyers, the university, or the U.S. consulate can advocate and negotiate on their behalf.”

Ball is a UCLA freshman from Chino Hills, California, and is the younger brother of Los Angeles Lakers rookie Lonzo Ball. He is also the son of outspoken father and basketball sneaker entrepreneur LaVar Ball. The other two players are freshmen Cody Riley, of Kansas City, Kansas, and Jalen Hall, of Corona, California, according to a source.

Authorities believe the players shoplifted from a Louis Vuitton store near the UCLA team hotel outside of Shanghai. The Bruins are in China to play Georgia Tech on Saturday in the season opener.

The players were arrested Tuesday after local law enforcement came to the team hotel and questioned both UCLA and Georgia Tech players before taking the three away. ESPN first reported the arrests.

“We are aware of a situation involving UCLA student-athletes in Hangzhou, China,” UCLA said in a statement. “The University is cooperating fully with local authorities on this matter.”

Nee, who is based in Hong Kong, researched and authored a groundbreaking Amnesty International report on the Chinese system, notably coercion and forced confessions. In general, Nee said a defendant could be held in detention for weeks before prosecutors decide to press or drop charges.

“In most criminal cases that I know of, it’s very rare [or] unheard of for people to get American-style bail,” Nee said. “I doubt it’ll be likely that they’ll be released until they either are sentenced or fined, or whatever the punishment may be.”

Another United States-based lawyer with experience working criminal and civil courts in China agreed with Nee’s assessment and said it will take a concerted effort from the U.S. government to get them out of detention or have the charges/punishment relaxed. He spoke to Yahoo on background and on an unnamed basis because he didn’t want to be quoted speaking about the Chinese government.

Among the other factors will be how the players react to their detainment. Officials from the U.S. government will likely be able to visit with them and counsel them.

Then there is the specter of LaVar Ball, who could become a concern, according to a source familiar with UCLA’s thinking. LiAngelo is the middle of the three Ball brothers, who LaVar has built the Big Baller Brand shoe and apparel company on, as well as a reality television show. LiAngelo was seen on the reality show driving a Ferrari.

“LaVar is going to be a wild card, no one knows what he is going to do,” the source said. “Will he rail at the Chinese government? Will he rail on UCLA? Or just say, ‘My kid is an idiot’?”

https://sports.yahoo.com/liangelo-ball-u...58780.html

(11-07-2017 11:18 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Those bathrooms in NC probably don't sound too bad right now

California cant travel to nc, texas or tennessee, sends basketball players to China

(11-07-2017 04:32 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 03:57 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:Three UCLA players were arrested on Tuesday in China for shoplifting ahead of the Bruins’ season-opening game against Georgia Tech, according to ESPN’s Jeff Goodman. Those players are freshmen LiAngelo Ball, Cody Riley and Jalen Hill.

Ball is obviously the biggest name as the younger brother of former UCLA star Lonzo Ball and the older brother of UCLA commit LaMelo Ball. Riley and Hill each entered the program more touted than Ball as recruits. Riley is a 6’8 forward ranked No. 45 overall in the class of 2017 by ESPN, while Hill is also a 6’8 forward ranked No. 49 by ESPN.

UCLA and Georgia Tech play in China on Friday.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketb...orgia-tech

They have embarrassed not only their school but America with their actions. They should be thrown off the team & serve their time

I hope you hold yourself to these ridiculous standards.

If they are guilty they HAVE embarrassed their school and the USA. How difficult is it to NOT shop lift while in a foreign country? Doesn't take a "ridiculous standard" to avoid doing that, eh?

(11-08-2017 06:21 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 04:32 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 03:57 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:Three UCLA players were arrested on Tuesday in China for shoplifting ahead of the Bruins’ season-opening game against Georgia Tech, according to ESPN’s Jeff Goodman. Those players are freshmen LiAngelo Ball, Cody Riley and Jalen Hill.

Ball is obviously the biggest name as the younger brother of former UCLA star Lonzo Ball and the older brother of UCLA commit LaMelo Ball. Riley and Hill each entered the program more touted than Ball as recruits. Riley is a 6’8 forward ranked No. 45 overall in the class of 2017 by ESPN, while Hill is also a 6’8 forward ranked No. 49 by ESPN.

UCLA and Georgia Tech play in China on Friday.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketb...orgia-tech

They have embarrassed not only their school but America with their actions. They should be thrown off the team & serve their time

I hope you hold yourself to these ridiculous standards.

If they are guilty they HAVE embarrassed their school and the USA. How difficult is it to NOT shop lift while in a foreign country? Doesn't take a "ridiculous standard" to avoid doing that, eh?

It is embarrassing and they should be disciplined. But jail?

They should be sent back the US immediately where they should be charged for the crime. I'm no lawyer and I have little experience with shop lifting. But I don't think we send people to jail for 3 years for minor crimes do we?

(11-07-2017 07:44 PM)58-56 Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 04:58 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  Shoplifting in China .... man ... that could be a life sentence. Commie's don't play around.

Those are REALLY stupid kids. I'd kick em off the team for being total dumb asses.

Three to ten years for shoplifting. Potential death penalty if carrying a weapon.

China actually harvests organs of condemed prisioners. Taking some organs out the day before execution like kidneys. Wonder how may matches They might find. Maybe Trump can get Them released while He's over there.

(11-08-2017 08:32 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(11-08-2017 06:21 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 04:32 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 03:57 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:Three UCLA players were arrested on Tuesday in China for shoplifting ahead of the Bruins’ season-opening game against Georgia Tech, according to ESPN’s Jeff Goodman. Those players are freshmen LiAngelo Ball, Cody Riley and Jalen Hill.

Ball is obviously the biggest name as the younger brother of former UCLA star Lonzo Ball and the older brother of UCLA commit LaMelo Ball. Riley and Hill each entered the program more touted than Ball as recruits. Riley is a 6’8 forward ranked No. 45 overall in the class of 2017 by ESPN, while Hill is also a 6’8 forward ranked No. 49 by ESPN.

UCLA and Georgia Tech play in China on Friday.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketb...orgia-tech

They have embarrassed not only their school but America with their actions. They should be thrown off the team & serve their time

I hope you hold yourself to these ridiculous standards.

If they are guilty they HAVE embarrassed their school and the USA. How difficult is it to NOT shop lift while in a foreign country? Doesn't take a "ridiculous standard" to avoid doing that, eh?

It is embarrassing and they should be disciplined. But jail?

They should be sent back the US immediately where they should be charged for the crime. I'm no lawyer and I have little experience with shop lifting. But I don't think we send people to jail for 3 years for minor crimes do we?

Welcome to the world outside of the US.

It's sad that probably nobody has educated them about other countries laws and government systems....especially Communists and Dictatorships.
There are dozens of cases like this where US citizens do stupid stuff and suffer under the judicial system of countries like China, Singapore, Middle East and other Asian countries. Just because they are basketball players and some from well off families won't make it easier like here in the US.
I guessing they appreciate the US even more now.

(11-07-2017 08:53 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  Stupid stunt, our government is going to have to rescue their stupid carcasses, they should get kicked off the team.


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That would be an extra benefit wouldn't it? The government should do nothing to rescue them. Let justice run its course