(11-28-2017 02:44 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(11-28-2017 02:10 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  

(11-28-2017 10:52 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(11-28-2017 10:46 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  

(11-28-2017 10:15 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Ohio State has been perennial top 20 team over the last 20 years. Not even a debate. G'town, same thing. Both those schools you could legitimately run the conference and NOT be in the shadows of Duke and UNC.

Some of the ones i put on there are debatable, these, are not. 30 years ago Doesn't = success today. Not to mention oneof the most unreasonable fan base's in the country. Anything less than beating Duke and UNC won't be accepted. See Herb. Hell one of their fans immediate purchased the firecoachkeatts.com domain after he got hired. SMH

They're still debatable because look at the quality of their conferences. The fact that NC State is a Tobacco Road school in the ACC, plays both Duke and UNC (And other ACC talent) twice a year, with the OPPORTUNITY to become relevant again in the best basketball conference in the country alone makes NC State a better option for Keatts and his style of play than those other schools. The ceiling is much greater. Has it been that way recently, no... that's not what I'm arguing. I'm arguing that the ceiling limit in terms of success is greater for him at NC State than those other schools. If he's successful at State, it will have a far better impact on Keatts legacy in the game than it would at those other schools. Hands down.

IMO the ceiling is LESS, because you are always in the Shadow of Duke and UNC. Running the other conferences IMO is a higher ceiling than being at BEST 3rd in the ACC(very much a stretch) When Roy and K retire, it could be higher but until then it is what it is.

I truly believe that is at most, 5 years from happening for both. I can't see either hanging on that long. Roy and K both have had health issues in recent years that have caused them to miss a little time. I think State knew that when they hired Keatts.

Historically, State doesn't give coaches much more than 5 years, so he better hope they do.

The last eight coaches:

Coach Seasons
Everett Case. 17
Press Maravich 2
Norm Sloan. 14
Jim Valvano 10
Les Robinson 7
Herb Sendek 11
Sydney Lowe. 4
Mark Gottfried. 6