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RE: Nippert Defilement - Saw it Tonight
(06-19-2018 12:02 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  
(06-19-2018 09:54 AM)TubaCat Wrote:  
(06-19-2018 07:32 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  
(06-18-2018 03:53 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  
(06-13-2018 12:06 PM)GoCats1994 Wrote:  Given the title of this entire thread, I am reluctant to even post. Soccer is not the enemy. FC Cincinnati is not the enemy. US Soccer is not the enemy. Bearcat football is not harmed by futbol.

I had the opportunity to attend several of the World Cup matches in 1994 when they were in the US. Completely blew my mind. The pageantry...love for sport and country...excitement...level of play.

If, if, if, if...Cincinnati is chosen to host teams - even as a practice facility - I would highly encourage anyone/everyone within traveling distance to partake in the festivities. Perhaps a once in a lifetime opportunity to see something you've never seen before.

With respect to paragraphs #2 and #3, while I am really not a soccer fan (I am trying), I did attend a World Cup match - Brazil vs. United States - on July 4, 1994 in Stanford Stadium. I concur that this is something everyone should do at least once. I was fortunate that I got to cross this off my bucket list before I even had a bucket list. I just happened to be visiting a friend nearby and we scalped some tickets. I don't care who is playing, if Cincinnati gets picked for some games, by all means GO.

If I may address paragraph #1, I don't think anyone believes soccer is an "enemy." But I'm not exactly sure if another attractive sports venue doesn't divert attention and dollars away from UC. As a UC fan, I want the feel-good news to be about the Bearcats. For the past couple years, it's been almost all FCC, even though the "feel-good" has been coming out of our football stadium. Quite frankly, I haven't been to Nippert since the notches were put in place, and the first time I see those notches will probably be for a soccer match, not football.

I'm not too sure the Crew has helped O$U soccer, but that doesn't mean it can't happen in Cincinnati. With that said, nowhere in any discussion or contract have I seen anything regarding partnership between FCC and UC soccer. That kind of surprises me, actually. I might have been friendlier about the Nippert lease had that been the case.

If you want to compete for those $$$, instead of hoping for all the other sports in the city to relocate or fold, you might want to push for a better product on the field and on the court, thus winning in the competition for spare $$$.

Winning cures all these woes. People want to watch a competitive team, regardless of the venue or the sport.

It isn't that simple. Every college and pro team in a given region will always be competing for those people's attention and money.

More people shell out $$ for a winning product than a piece of crap. There is AMPLE data to support this.

The problem with your line of thinking is that you assume that most people are hardcore sports fans that, if another team moves to their city, they would take more time and money away from non-sports interests to buy tickets, buy merchandise, and follow fan blogs. It simply isn't true. Most people are casual fans, and have a limited budget and attention span that they will allocate toward sports.

Let's consider a hypothetical John Casual. Mr. Casual enjoys local sports, but doesn't really follow the performance of the teams or players other than seeing an occasional blurb on social media. Mr. Casual goes to 20 Reds games per year, and spends $100 on merchandise.

Now, the Bengals move to town. Does Mr. Casual still go to 20 Reds games and spend $100 on Reds merchandise, as well as go to 3 Bengals games and spend $100 on Bengals merchandise? Probably not. His budget would probably look more like 15 Reds games, $50 on Reds merchandise, 2 Bengals games, and $50 on Bengals merchandise.

Alright, now FCC comes to town. Again, Mr. Casual is likely miss a few more Reds and Bengals games because he now wants to attend a few soccer matches and buy an FCC jersey (kit?). The math is arbitrary, but it can be assumed that he isn't going to triple his original Reds budget just to see the Bengals and FCC.

Now, where do the Bearcats come in? Well, Mr. Casual attended college in Indiana, but he still wants to see a UC game from time to time. If he still has a little more money he's willing to spend on sports, maybe he'll see a UC football or basketball game once every few years. That is the position we are in.
 
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