(06-04-2020 03:31 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(06-04-2020 11:25 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(06-04-2020 11:15 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(06-04-2020 10:17 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(06-04-2020 09:28 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Yet it is your tribe that calls us 'deplorables". it is your tribe that riots and attacks us.

But the most intriguing this is the 50/50 split of blame you propose. where is the evidence for that?

I think in the case of the rioting and civil unrest across the country, we can rightfully put the lion's share of blame on the left.

On the matter of the Covid shutdown, I don't know where to put the blame. But I do know one tribe wants to re-open more than the other, and the other tribe wants to to extend the closings at any economic cost.




Police brutality is rare these days. I remember when it wasn't. Take my word for it, things have changed. But in any case, it is not limited to white cops/black citizens. Why do you think it is? Because of the vague charge of "systemic" racism? How do you prove that? But in any case, why hasn't it been addressed and rooted out by the legions of black/Democratic police officials and city and county officials over the last 40-60 years? How can we blame that on the conservatives, when it is the liberals in power where the "brutality" and 'systemic racism" occurs?

OO, what are your circumstances that allow you to assess the state of police brutality these days? Specifically when it comes to the current experience of inner-city black males (which seems to be the main issue when these stories keep hitting the news cycle)?

So the tactic in this post is to question OOs bona fides on opining on 'the current experience of inner city black males'.

Considering your unabashed and unqualified assertion of deep systemic issues on that very same topic, the natural qestion arises of what the hell are yours to do the same exact thing?

See my answer above. I don't position myself as an authority on the experience of black males in the inner-city.

OO basically said... "Trust me on this... police brutality is not that bad these days" and I wondered how he knows because I would imagine most of us (me included) on this forum have very little insight into that particular topic.

Yet you still note what "systemic" problems exist. Same assertion by you rotated 180 degrees.

Thus the comment.

Got it. Sure... I have an opinion as to whether police brutality is a problem for the black community. I think everybody here has an opinion on this.

OO said, "Police brutality is rare these days. I remember when it wasn't. Take my word for it, things have changed." When he said, "Take my word for it," it made it seem that he had some additional insight beyond the rest of our experiences.

Now I am understanding that we should take his word for it because he applies a thoughtful analysis to issues whereas Lad, AtEase, Big, and I do not. Some would say that his attitude is condescending but I just feel lucky to have the benefit of his careful analysis on this forum.