(07-27-2019 07:58 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(07-27-2019 05:48 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(07-27-2019 05:39 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

Quote:His mother, Sanjuana, told The Post that CBP discovered the visa after fingerprinting Francisco. Galan said the document fueled suspicions that Galicia’s documents were fake.

Sanjuana told the outlet that she obtained the visa because she believed it was the only way for him to cross the border to visit family in Mexico. His mother, who is undocumented, said she could not obtain a passport for her son because she used a different name for herself on his birth certificate.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/07/francisco-erwin-galicia/

Quote:The Post reported that the delay could be in part because Francisco's mother, who is not a citizen, took out a U.S. tourist visa in his name while he was still a minor, falsely saying he was born in Mexico. Galan told the newspaper that the paperwork confusion only furthered the agency’s suspicion that Galicia’s U.S. documents were fake.

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/07/23/...-detained/

Bluntly, if I am pulled over and there are multiple indications of different identities --- I am spending some time as guest somewhere.

But leave it to the anti-borders people to throw a fit.

At the time he was pulled over was this information known? Or did it come out after he was already in custody?

I’ve seen no indication that there was any credible reason to believe the documents he had on his person were fake - so does this mean that a Border Patrol officer is allowed to start detaining citizens because they have a hunch their valid IDs are fake?

God god dude. When someone --- anyone ---- comes across a border and there is *any* question that there is a 'second identity', wtf do you think they should do? Let them go with a pinkie promise?

I seem to read about actual fing terrorists whose MO has a valid ID, and false cover.

Jeezus Krist dude. I dont give a **** what your rush to judgement is here (that is your rush to indict Orange policy in particular) but the actual fing mission of the Border Patrol is to be on the lookout for *just that situation*.

At a checkpoint within the prescribed distance from the border, the Border Patrol has pretty much carte blanche to ask anything, or look for anything.

These kids came through, they were asked questions, then they were asked for ID. The kid who was detained ID, when run popped up with something very out of the ordinary.

Seems pretty simple to me. Or keep your SJW jousting suit on. No skin off my back.

Quote:What about if you have a weapon and a conceal-carry license on you, but an officer thinks the license is forged?

Depends on why he thinks the license is forged. If he accesses a history at the stop that shows you are a felon, probably a good reason. That is more apropos to the situation described.

Not only that, but you utterly ignore the fact this was a stop and search incident to a border crossing. At an immigration checkpoint within the prescribed distance from the border that the Supreme Court has given a green light to. Criminy, in that situation they can put on the gd rubber gloves and make you sign alto with almost zero justification at that type of stop.

Again, put your thinking cap on first, before getting hot and bothered about the stop. Good god, they even ask *me* for ID from time to time at the immigration stops coming out of El Paso.

Two things - I don’t believe this was a stop at a border crossing, but I could be wrong. I believe this was an immigration station within the US, so they weren’t coming across a border and you suggest.

Also, I asked and didn’t get an answer - was the travel visa issue identified during the stop or after the fact? No story indicates when they found that information out, and that is really important. It seems like you have seen reporting that says the visa issue was identified during the stop - link?