(06-13-2019 10:26 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(06-13-2019 10:17 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(06-13-2019 08:23 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  In any case, 93, you are talking about “fairness” a highly subjective judgement, and one with which I dis agree. You want fairness, abolish the graduated income tax and pass the Fair Tax.
But in reference to the Trump tax cuts, I am talking effect. I am saying a better economy helps us all, and that is what those cuts are producing. I don’t see the point in cutting off our noses to spite our faces, even if some segment of society thinks noseless faces are “fairer”.

No I'm not. I referenced the tax cut tissue as a way that the right "wields power" by deciding who gets favorable changes in taxation. When did I discuss "fairness"?

Sorry. So you think it’s fair that the people who pay the most taxes get the most tax cuts? I see nothing wrong with that, either. In any case, the results are showing.
I have always listed tax policy as one of my top issues. Usually, when I suggest tax cuts, whatever leftist I am talking with goes right to greed and/or fairness.

But here's the thing with the "fairness" argument. The "rich" pay a larger share of the total tax burden here than in almost any other developed country. So if you determine "fair share" based on world standards, the "rich" are paying substantially more than their "fair share" here.

But of course, they don't want to pay more. So they move investments and income to foreign jurisdictions where they are taxed less. And with investment goes jobs. So the loser in that is the middle class who would be working in those jobs if they were here.

We brought our corporate rates more in line with the rest of the developed world in the 2017 law. So we get a big increase in manufacturing jobs and an increase in the average wage rate, both for the first time in years. It's not rocket science.