(05-06-2019 11:33 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-06-2019 10:36 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-06-2019 10:31 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-06-2019 10:20 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(05-06-2019 08:22 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Except there's noting acceptable about it. The only people who find it acceptable are the crazy bastards that are already members of the groups.
That's different from Antifa. There are many on the left who support and defend Antifa quite openly. But Antifa is no better than the KKK.

OK.. nobody jump down my throat because I'm trying to understand this...
How is Antifa equivalent to the KKK? Their stated cause is to limit the platform of far-right extremists/white nationalists/etc. I personally find their methods unacceptable.
But no better than the KKK? Help me understand your statement.

I do not believe that Antifa's "stated" cause is actually their reason for existence. Their activities extend far beyond anything that could reasonably be described as limiting the platform of far-right extremists/white nationalists/etc. They exist to push communist propaganda.

If I existed to push communist propaganda, I would find something else to claim as my "stated" cause, wouldn't you?

I seem to hear about them only in reference to clashes with white nationalists. What else do they do to push propaganda?

Twice in the last year they have moved to shut down Portland streets with unpermitted marches. Most notably on Oct 8 2018 when they shut down several streets in downtown Portland and bullied motorists in the area.

Antifa was part of the Occupy ICE that seized and occupied the Portland ICE building in June 2018. Ties in nicely with the Antifa march last week that precipitated the current brawl, which was explicitly an anti-ICE march/protest.

That is just Portland. So, their stated cause of being 'anti-white supremacist' really doesnt pass the smell test with those incidents. Unless all Portland downtown commuters are white supremacists, and ICE is white supremacists.

In short, Antifa is just an anti-Trump group who feel the right to violate the law and commit acts of violence and mass civil disobedience because 'Orange Man Bad'.

Yet people seem to laud them. It is a bunch of twerpy wannabe thugs who elevate their displeasure at Orange Man into mass lawbreaking and an excuse to commit violence against those who disagree with them, all the while trying to remain anonymous. In short, a bunch of millenial proto-fascists who are willing to threaten and commit violence against those who disagree with them, but wrap themselves in the very thin veneer of being 'anti white supremacist'.